whats the best motor or frankenstein to do to make my 92 civic si run 12's? is it possible to do it all motor or would i have to boost?

 

an ls/vtec with all honda parts

 

Prelude swap+nice header+hondata=

 

LsVtec + CTR pistons+ hondata+ skunk cams+ DTR header+ tuning= guarenteed 12s

 

What does "best" mean? What is that? Please figure out exactly what it is you are looking for (ie. what "best" means to you) and come back when you figure that out. The question you posed is simply going to get an infinite supply of opinions, with absolutely no sense of direction for anyone.

I can think of a dozen boundary condition, or constraints off the top of my head for the question you posed. Help us, help you! Help us, help YOU!

 

Ive seen it done on stock type r motors with bolt ons

 

B20vtec with all honda parts.

 

A '92 Si H/b is alot lighter say a '94-'95 Si, not by much but it all counts.

Just a thought.

And.........There's no such thing as a "best motor" setup anyways. It boils down how you transfer the hp/tq to the ground and driver skill at the track.

"There is fast and there is "stipud fast", the fast car will win"

 

I think everyone's idea of a car for "daily driving" is going to be different.

 

In my personal opinion there isnt such a thing as a 12 sec daily driven NA honda. Im sure you can do it with your civvy chassis and a fair/alot of motor work and weight reduction(loss of ps, ac?), but then again, I like my sound deadening.

 

well it wont be that hard if he is planing to alter the car for track days. such as slicks pulling out the passanger seat and back seat . he could keep a/c. but if he wants to race it in complete street /daily driven form it makes it alot harder. slicks are the key.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In my personal opinion there isnt such a thing as a 12 sec daily driven NA honda. Im sure you can do it with your civvy chassis and a fair/alot of motor work and weight reduction(loss of ps, ac?), but then again, I like my sound deadening.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ive never had a car with a/c and ive never had a honda with power steering. as for gutting the interior, a 82 (*92) hb is pretty light already. mine weighed 1962lbs in every day drive form. full-interior minus spare and passenger seat.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In my personal opinion there isnt such a thing as a 12 sec daily driven NA honda. Im sure you can do it with your civvy chassis and a fair/alot of motor work and weight reduction(loss of ps, ac?), but then again, I like my sound deadening.</TD></TR></TABLE>what rock have you been under?(the rock of luxury i guess?) lol, a daily driven 12 sec NA eh2/eh3 is elementary these days....H22 all the way.....13.411 on street tires with just bolt ons..........just got a new AN-R header, couple that with traction bars and tuning and I should hit 12.99...........daily driven...........John

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22John &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what rock have you been under?(the rock of luxury i guess?) lol, a daily driven 12 sec NA eh2/eh3 is elementary these days....H22 all the way.....13.411 on street tires with just bolt ons..........just got a new AN-R header, couple that with traction bars and tuning and I should hit 12.99...........daily driven...........John</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sure a H22 can do it, after the mounts, cross memeber, and wiring harness.
But so can a GSR motor with I/H/E and mild cams (ITRs or St.1s). Hitting high 12s dosent take alot of these days, people are hitting as high as 190 whp with mostly stock honda internals. My buddy just went 13.1 last week with a semi stock GSR motor in his eg (I/H/E/ITR Cams/22x8x13 slicks). Check out this post https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=768744, he hit 13.6 EG/GSR street tires with free mods

Good luck


Modified by 12 oz. at 6:25 AM 3/12/2004

 

itr, crower cams, retainers, springs, ferrea valves, jdm dc itr headers, slicks....should get you into the high 12s....build the bottom and your set.

 

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Sure a H22 can do it, after the mounts, cross memeber, and wiring harness.
But so can a GSR motor with I/H/E and mild cams (ITRs or St.1s). Hitting high 12s dosent take alot of these days, people are hitting as high as 190 whp with mostly stock honda internals. My buddy just went 13.1 last week with a semi stock GSR motor in his eg (I/H/E/ITR Cams/22x8x13 slicks). Check out this post https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=768744, he hit 13.6 EG/GSR street tires with free mods

Good luck


Modified by 12 oz. at 6:25 AM 3/12/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>exactly, elementary. BTW, i wasnt tryin to say h22 was the only way to go, but I'm biased, and for a mechanically inclined person like myself, can be very cost effective..........John

 

a nice set of slick should help along the way too

 

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I agree with him

 

jdm h22a with i/h/e vafc type-s cams strong and inexpensive!!

 

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agreed. Sean gave me a ride in his car. It's pretty damn fast. It's for sale too, right sean?

 

How about daily driven 12.8 @ 110 on street tires and full exhaust... http://www.imagineengineering.com/h22a.htm

 

How bout a daily driven 12.6 car.

Ls/Vtec crx with internals up to wazhooo

 

damn... we only hit a 1.95 60ft on 22x8 slicks

 

I was capable of running 7.95's in the 1/8th with a stock b18c R mods were aem CAI, spoon clutch and flywheel, Kenji chipped ECU, and FPR. 1.77 60 ft times that day, best was 1.70 the week before but was running too rich.

Cant wait for the new setup should be going in a couple of weeks.