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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:40 AM
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i seen a Lotus driving around with a B18C3 DOHC VTEC HONDA motor. has anyone else EVER heard of this? i sure in the hell havent. but i seen it with my own eyes.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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Yeah, ya see, the honda motors are just so great, they put them in the Lotus Elise (or some **** like that). And they are a kick *** motor too.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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I have heard of a lotus with a honda engine in it, though i wasint aware they came factory that way. Cause thats the only way i see there being something like a b18c3. There was i guy over on hondaswap a while back askking some tech questions.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrMayhem &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, ya see, the honda motors are just so great, they put them in the Lotus Elise (or some **** like that). And they are a kick *** motor too.</TD></TR></TABLE> thats what it is a elise, crazy **** huh?
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:49 AM
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i thought the elise's coming to the states now are celica gts engines/tranny?
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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if lotus put motors in the isuzu impulse why dont they put them in there own cars? from my understanding they make great motors
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 01:09 AM
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Yeah that is kinda od, but maybe they found something that just suted them so perfectly for the chassis they had in mind they figured why try and design something that some one else has already made perfect IE according to there project "The elise" and there are elise's that are lotus powerd if im not mistaken, i think this is a new thing they have stared for that model car jus tover that last few years.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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lotus's are nice cars w/o honda engines
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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I have heard about a man putting a B18C5 in a lotus and running a 12.3 or something in that range. I have never heard of a B18C3 though!
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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there was a company in arizona that was selling elise's with b18c in them. they had chosen this motor because of its durability, power output, fitment and some other reasons.

with lotus officially importing the elise to the US...the rover k-series motor wasn't emissions tested and wasn't worth the money to get US ready. they would have gone with the b18c, buthonda has stopped official production of all b-series motors. the toyota was the next best choice. plus, toyota and lotus have a history in some engineering aspects of racing. lotus helped with the new toyota f1 program.

lotus did suspension work for isuzu. lotus is a huge consulting firm. kinda like cosworth.

the k-series rover engine that was being used in all european and other export elises is slowly being phased out of their production for all but the lowest 110 model.

i don't know what a b18c3 is, but i'm sure honda made one. i know there is a b18c6 and i think there was a b18c4. all built for different markets in the world.

dohc vtec eaaaater- did you change your SN? i sent you a PM the other day about your t-belt.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Haha! I'm number 1 on the list at a Lotus dealership in PA to get a brand new Celica powered Lotus Elise in Arctic Silver!
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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I thought the C3 was a JDM motor. I remember a mag interview with the head of spoon or some other high performance company concerning the b-series and he said his favorite motor was the b18c3.

As far as the elises, there was a company in the states selling an elise with a type r motor in it for like $50K. It was in motor trend magazine or something. It was faster than the mustang cobra R at the time. It's made by "sunsport" or SunXXX, i can't recall the exact name. Last i heard the elises were being brought over with the celica gts motors as stated above.....
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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B18C3, I haven't collected enough info on but it seems to exist.

B18C4 came in the 97 Civic VTi in Europe. Was the copy of the B18C1 but for the european market.

B18C6 from what I have gathered it is a Type R motor for the European market as well.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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sunstar motors.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16A- JDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC- 89-91 Civic Si-R I/CRX Si-R, Integra RSi/XSi (160ps)
B16A- JDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic Si-R II/ 92-97 CRX DelSol SiR (170ps)
B16A ver 1 1595cc DOHC VTEC, 150ps(auto)/160ps(man)
B16A ver 2 1595cc DOHC VTEC, 155ps(auto)/170ps(man)
B16A2/3- USDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC 93-97 DelSol VTEC/99-00 Civic Si (160hp)
B16B 1595cc DOHC VTEC, 185ps
B16B- JDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC 98+ Civic Type R (185ps)
B17A1- USDM 1.7L DOHC VTEC 92-93 Integra GS-R (160hp)
B18A1- USDM 1.8L DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Integra RS/LS/GS (90-91: 130hp / 92-93: 140hp)
B18B1- USDM 1.8L DOHC non-VTEC 94-01 Integra RS/LS/GS (140hp)
B18C .1797cc DOHC VTEC, 170ps(A/T) 180ps(M/T)
B18C- JDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra SiR-G (180ps)
B18C specR 1797cc DOHC VTEC, 200ps
B18C1- USDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra GS-R (170hp)
B18C5- USDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC 97+ Integra Type R- (195hp)
B18C6 EURO/UK 1.8L DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R- (190ps)
B18C6/7- JDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R- (200ps)
B18C7 AUSTRALIAN 1.8L DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R- (190ps)</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dont know if this is 100% correct but most of it is right.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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It's basically a deritivate of one of the B18C motors not from the states. I believe New Zealand has C3 motors. It's the same as what we have here.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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F the b18c - they should drop a K20 into the elise
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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they would have to completly re-engineer the rear subframe to put a k-series in. lotus doesn't want to do that and doesn't want to wait until 2007-08 for the elise replacement to bring the car to america. so, the toyota engine will do. i think it is a great motor. very similiar to the b-series.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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B is for battle series fyi i seen a lotus with typr r sticker on it.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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I was under the impression that the Elise's had the B18C5 engine in 'em.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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yeah, as stated above...some elises imported for track use had b18c in them

whats this b is for battle? its just a letter, like all the other honda engines.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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i have a b18c3 it was off an automatic gsr from sum other country but the head is stamped 93
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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this was a spoon 2.0L motor that went bad.
but b18c3 are comon in hk same p72 block.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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For all those who need to know:

The B18C3 didn't come in any cars in Japan, it was the stamping for all blocks ordered separately from Honda dealerships. Due to the fact that comparably few of these were ever ordered, very few exist and even fewer have been imported to the US.

Regarding the Lotus question. Sun International (www.sunspeed.com) created a kit to install a Honda B series engine into a Lotus Elise as an upgrade from the original 120 horsepower Rover K engine that they come with from the factory. The new Elise that's being sold by Lotus in the US, will have a Toyota engine and drivetrain.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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the new 05 lotus has a toyota engine, rear engine rear drive, 40 grand... 0-60 in 4.5 and only 190 hp's (NOT whp)... pretty impressive!

edit: ok, damn u grizzly, i got more info tho!!
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