Aem big brake kit
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedTegLS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What ever happened to the AEM kit with the bronze cross drilled rotors and the anodized cetners? These AEM kits are so plain.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They got discontinued because they sucked... I had them on my prelude and the cross drilled cracked after like 10,000 miles
here is a pic of them on my prelude (sorry on pics of them on my teg)
They got discontinued because they sucked... I had them on my prelude and the cross drilled cracked after like 10,000 miles
here is a pic of them on my prelude (sorry on pics of them on my teg)
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Don't have any pictures, but they didn't fit inside my 16 inch Rota Slipstreams.
Just FYI...no flaming.....are you getting the upgraded calipers too? If you aren't, you do know that these brakes will negatively affect your brake performance, right? Stock calipers plus the larger rotor will yield heat. There is too much surface area for such a small caliper. Any increase in performance you feel will be psychological.
Just FYI...no flaming.....are you getting the upgraded calipers too? If you aren't, you do know that these brakes will negatively affect your brake performance, right? Stock calipers plus the larger rotor will yield heat. There is too much surface area for such a small caliper. Any increase in performance you feel will be psychological.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shamoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Just FYI...no flaming.....are you getting the upgraded calipers too? If you aren't, you do know that these brakes will negatively affect your brake performance, right? Stock calipers plus the larger rotor will yield heat. There is too much surface area for such a small caliper. Any increase in performance you feel will be psychological. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You sure about that? Do you mountain bike? 6" hydrolic disc brakes were great, until they came out with 8" disks. They use the same caliper, but MUCH more stopping power.
Cars and bikes aren't exactly the same, but the same principles apply.
Just FYI...no flaming.....are you getting the upgraded calipers too? If you aren't, you do know that these brakes will negatively affect your brake performance, right? Stock calipers plus the larger rotor will yield heat. There is too much surface area for such a small caliper. Any increase in performance you feel will be psychological. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You sure about that? Do you mountain bike? 6" hydrolic disc brakes were great, until they came out with 8" disks. They use the same caliper, but MUCH more stopping power.
Cars and bikes aren't exactly the same, but the same principles apply.
I think DocIowa and shamoo both make good points, but to DocIowa the amount of heat generated by a mountain bike brake is sooooo much less then what a car rotor would generate even on mild braking that a mountain bike, although the same principals apply, can't compare to the heat that a cars rotor will generate
what do you think shamoo?
what do you think shamoo?
to answear your question..I am getting the whole kit..and the shop that I am getting it at, they told me that it will fit my 16" rotas! did you try getting spacers for your front wheels.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DocIowa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You sure about that? Do you mountain bike? 6" hydrolic disc brakes were great, until they came out with 8" disks. They use the same caliper, but MUCH more stopping power.
Cars and bikes aren't exactly the same, but the same principles apply. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup, I actually do moutain bike a lot. But you have to remember, how much material is on a bike disc. Not too much. My Hayes system is what? 1mm to 1.5mm at most? They probably went through lots of R&D to get a perfect medium between heat and surface area. I don't think anything much larger than 8 inches is going to do anything.
As with the spacers....yes, I have spacers when I had the AEM kit. And it still rubbed a TINY TINY bit on the inside of the rim. I'm sure that a little trimming of the caliper would have solved it. In the end I didn't put it on.
You sure about that? Do you mountain bike? 6" hydrolic disc brakes were great, until they came out with 8" disks. They use the same caliper, but MUCH more stopping power.
Cars and bikes aren't exactly the same, but the same principles apply. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup, I actually do moutain bike a lot. But you have to remember, how much material is on a bike disc. Not too much. My Hayes system is what? 1mm to 1.5mm at most? They probably went through lots of R&D to get a perfect medium between heat and surface area. I don't think anything much larger than 8 inches is going to do anything.
As with the spacers....yes, I have spacers when I had the AEM kit. And it still rubbed a TINY TINY bit on the inside of the rim. I'm sure that a little trimming of the caliper would have solved it. In the end I didn't put it on.
If your not upgrading the size of the contact patch why are you buying this kit?
Keep the money and buy some SS Brake lines and better brake pads.
Keep the money and buy some SS Brake lines and better brake pads.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93-GSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think DocIowa and shamoo both make good points, but to DocIowa the amount of heat generated by a mountain bike brake is sooooo much less then what a car rotor would generate even on mild braking that a mountain bike, although the same principals apply, can't compare to the heat that a cars rotor will generate
what do you think shamoo?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Whoops, I missed your post. But I think I kinda answered it after. The same thing applies to both mountain bike disc brakes and car disc brakes. Think about the mass you're trying to stop. A mountain bike weighs what? 20-25lbs plus rider of course. (Probably a pretty good lightweight bike if it has discs). A car is what? 2500lbs+?
The heat generated by a bike disc is quite amazing actually. It'll burn the fawk out of you, but it's perfectly in proportion to the mass of the rider plus the bike. Same with the car. You can't increase surface area too much on either without sacrificing stopping power/heat.
I haven't kept up with the mountain biking scene since I bought my bike a couple of years ago. I'm quite surprised there is an 8 inch kit out there. Is this hydraulic or cable actuated? I don't quite understand how anyone would want something that large on a mountain bike. Have any of you actually ridden a hydraulic disc equipped mountain bike? I could be going 60mph and lock both wheels up no problem. A hydraulic system is VERY VERY strong. It is probably a cable actuated system that you're speaking of if they went to 8 inches.
If you can lock up your wheels with a smaller system, why get something larger? For the looks?
Now that I think about it.....I'm quite sure it's cable actuated. Those brakes suck. I can slam on them and they're just like normal brakes. They probably had to increase the size of the rotor to make up for the lack of piston pressure. I'm too lazy to search for then, but maybe someone can post some info on this 8 inch kit that's hydraulic.
what do you think shamoo?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Whoops, I missed your post. But I think I kinda answered it after. The same thing applies to both mountain bike disc brakes and car disc brakes. Think about the mass you're trying to stop. A mountain bike weighs what? 20-25lbs plus rider of course. (Probably a pretty good lightweight bike if it has discs). A car is what? 2500lbs+?
The heat generated by a bike disc is quite amazing actually. It'll burn the fawk out of you, but it's perfectly in proportion to the mass of the rider plus the bike. Same with the car. You can't increase surface area too much on either without sacrificing stopping power/heat.
I haven't kept up with the mountain biking scene since I bought my bike a couple of years ago. I'm quite surprised there is an 8 inch kit out there. Is this hydraulic or cable actuated? I don't quite understand how anyone would want something that large on a mountain bike. Have any of you actually ridden a hydraulic disc equipped mountain bike? I could be going 60mph and lock both wheels up no problem. A hydraulic system is VERY VERY strong. It is probably a cable actuated system that you're speaking of if they went to 8 inches.
If you can lock up your wheels with a smaller system, why get something larger? For the looks?
Now that I think about it.....I'm quite sure it's cable actuated. Those brakes suck. I can slam on them and they're just like normal brakes. They probably had to increase the size of the rotor to make up for the lack of piston pressure. I'm too lazy to search for then, but maybe someone can post some info on this 8 inch kit that's hydraulic.
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So far I'm extremely happy. Car stops much better. Just make sure you get all 4. It has been tested that just doing the front actually makes things worse.
Arsenal: contact patch is not upgraded but you are exerting less work to stop the car because it is traveling less. Visualize how the outer circumference moves much less than the inner.

So far I'm extremely happy. Car stops much better. Just make sure you get all 4. It has been tested that just doing the front actually makes things worse.
Arsenal: contact patch is not upgraded but you are exerting less work to stop the car because it is traveling less. Visualize how the outer circumference moves much less than the inner.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shamoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just FYI...no flaming.....are you getting the upgraded calipers too? If you aren't, you do know that these brakes will negatively affect your brake performance, right? Stock calipers plus the larger rotor will yield heat. There is too much surface area for such a small caliper. Any increase in performance you feel will be psychological. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Visualise a spinning disc (made of whatever) with some weight to it, and try to stop it by clamping it with your hand towards the center, and also out towards the edge. The farther out from the center that you clamp it, the less pressure it takes to get it to stop. That's the idea behind increasing rotor size but still using the same calipers.
Visualise a spinning disc (made of whatever) with some weight to it, and try to stop it by clamping it with your hand towards the center, and also out towards the edge. The farther out from the center that you clamp it, the less pressure it takes to get it to stop. That's the idea behind increasing rotor size but still using the same calipers.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Visualise a spinning disc (made of whatever) with some weight to it, and try to stop it by clamping it with your hand towards the center, and also out towards the edge. The farther out from the center that you clamp it, the less pressure it takes to get it to stop. That's the idea behind increasing rotor size but still using the same calipers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So why then are they not like this stock? Not trying to argue with you, I believe what your saying, but would the costs be that much greater? I am mean on ferraris and Porsches they have a setup very similar where the caliper and pad are as close to the hub/disc center?
So why then are they not like this stock? Not trying to argue with you, I believe what your saying, but would the costs be that much greater? I am mean on ferraris and Porsches they have a setup very similar where the caliper and pad are as close to the hub/disc center?
brembo > aem nothign can beat the GT brakes that brembo makes... i personally would only put those big brakes on my car.. upgraded stock rotors and pads works fine.. if you NEED the bigger brakes might as well not compromise and just get good ones.




on ppl who buy brake kits for looks....


