extra power for 4th and 5th gen preludes (rewirering intake tempreture sensor)
i found it out because i really running stock engine,with only a few modifications,but i remember always a power loss when my car was warmed up,
this happens because the ITA (intake temp sensor) is built right in the intake,its heaten up not even by the air ,also by the heat of the engine,what i expected to be not as fair...
so i put it out (its on the right side of the intake-mainfold),closed the hole and drilled a new hole in my CAI-BOX (u even can took it to the front of your air filter),here it takes only the air temperature wich is outside the car,the sensor inst heaten up by the engine itself.
this opens up the injectors a little bit more then before.
u can take a look at my homepage for pictures
http://www.fast-fox.de(german)
Modified by prelude-bb3 at 9:19 AM 3/8/2004
this happens because the ITA (intake temp sensor) is built right in the intake,its heaten up not even by the air ,also by the heat of the engine,what i expected to be not as fair...
so i put it out (its on the right side of the intake-mainfold),closed the hole and drilled a new hole in my CAI-BOX (u even can took it to the front of your air filter),here it takes only the air temperature wich is outside the car,the sensor inst heaten up by the engine itself.
this opens up the injectors a little bit more then before.
u can take a look at my homepage for pictures
http://www.fast-fox.de(german)
Modified by prelude-bb3 at 9:19 AM 3/8/2004
luder... u dont!!!!!!
i thought so before,but im wrong,its very risky to do the coolant bypass...
the heaten up engine need to be controlled the right way and in critical tempreture phases its very important to run lean....
do not expect 10 or more horsepower from this,but 1-4HP is reality,i made it fore more sensible speed up,u feel more power and torque,its good for the last 0,10 sec on the mile .....
it made me nervous to feel a cold car more have power than a warmed up,and i didnt agree with the place they fitted the IAT sensor,this isnt very intelligent..
i thought so before,but im wrong,its very risky to do the coolant bypass...
the heaten up engine need to be controlled the right way and in critical tempreture phases its very important to run lean....
do not expect 10 or more horsepower from this,but 1-4HP is reality,i made it fore more sensible speed up,u feel more power and torque,its good for the last 0,10 sec on the mile .....
it made me nervous to feel a cold car more have power than a warmed up,and i didnt agree with the place they fitted the IAT sensor,this isnt very intelligent..
i just used a hondata insulator gasket, kept manifold temps down.
The only deal here is that while your air may be x degrees in your airbox, based on the heat trasfer it still ends up being Y which your manifold was trying to measure.......so basically you're giving the ecu lower than actual intake temps which is fine for performance until you start detonating because of too much timing advance. Probably won't happen, but it might on hot days. The IAT was in the manifold for a reason/
And just to clarify this does not make 'more' power it merely allows you to keep the power and not lose it to heak soak of the manifold. A better idea would be an insulator gasket that insulates the IM from the head resuting in the IM being much cooler and intake temps just being lower, rather than fooling the IAT.
I don't see how this is less risky than a coolant bypass?
The only deal here is that while your air may be x degrees in your airbox, based on the heat trasfer it still ends up being Y which your manifold was trying to measure.......so basically you're giving the ecu lower than actual intake temps which is fine for performance until you start detonating because of too much timing advance. Probably won't happen, but it might on hot days. The IAT was in the manifold for a reason/
And just to clarify this does not make 'more' power it merely allows you to keep the power and not lose it to heak soak of the manifold. A better idea would be an insulator gasket that insulates the IM from the head resuting in the IM being much cooler and intake temps just being lower, rather than fooling the IAT.
I don't see how this is less risky than a coolant bypass?
hondata ruelz (but im the cheap man
)
put bottom to where?....perhaps u klick on my homepage to look at the pictures done there...
i said before that this is not a HP tweak its more sensual for tempreture change and against powerloss...
i agree that hondata and similar would be a better way ,but expensiver...
(as u can see on my homepage ,the whole bunch ive done gets me from 12,3sec to 11,15sec 1/8 mile running 81 oktan only) im very proud doing this without extreme costs
)put bottom to where?....perhaps u klick on my homepage to look at the pictures done there...
i said before that this is not a HP tweak its more sensual for tempreture change and against powerloss...
i agree that hondata and similar would be a better way ,but expensiver...
(as u can see on my homepage ,the whole bunch ive done gets me from 12,3sec to 11,15sec 1/8 mile running 81 oktan only) im very proud doing this without extreme costs
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did you guys check out how he had the fpr away from the fuel rail(on the link he provided) . would this cause any ill affects?
the position of the FPR,is because here in germany it is illegal to use other than stock FPR,when going to the car check (every 2 years),its coverd with a shield so that it isnt obviously too see at the first look....
on the other hand why should 10cm harm it isnt a mounted on rail FPR its a loose one???
(btw ive seen funny things in my live integras with FPR built next to the gasfilter,in front of the fuel rail
,mine works fine)
on the other hand why should 10cm harm it isnt a mounted on rail FPR its a loose one???
(btw ive seen funny things in my live integras with FPR built next to the gasfilter,in front of the fuel rail
,mine works fine)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude-bb3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">english isnt my native tounge but i try to be as accurate as i can....
</TD></TR></TABLE> No offense to you... I just honestly wish I could speak your native language. I meant no harm.
</TD></TR></TABLE> No offense to you... I just honestly wish I could speak your native language. I meant no harm.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude-bb3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the position of the FPR,is because here in germany it is illegal to use other than stock FPR,when going to the car check (every 2 years),its coverd with a shield so that it isnt obviously too see at the first look....
on the other hand why should 10cm harm it isnt a mounted on rail FPR its a loose one???
(btw ive seen funny things in my live integras with FPR built next to the gasfilter,in front of the fuel rail
,mine works fine)</TD></TR></TABLE>
kool... that is pretty clever of you
.
on the other hand why should 10cm harm it isnt a mounted on rail FPR its a loose one???
(btw ive seen funny things in my live integras with FPR built next to the gasfilter,in front of the fuel rail
,mine works fine)</TD></TR></TABLE>kool... that is pretty clever of you
.
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