*new here to this forum* lots of info here...

just wondering if anyone has any experience with these coilovers. from what i hear they are pretty new to the scene, but i thought someone might have some feedback.

here is the link
http://www.edelbrock.com/autom....html

i personally have never dragged autocrossed before, but im interested and figure i want to get out this year and have some fun with my crx. as far as i can tell the catalog i saw at my performance shop the spring rate was at 250, but i can't confirm this with edelbrock until they write me back.

so what can you all tell me?

BTW i've been searching your forum all day about spring rates and i sure am glad i did...

 

Donno anything about them, but since they use 2.5" ID Eibach springs, it all comes down to how good the shock is. What spring rates the stock valving will handle, can they custom valve for you, how good is a adjustments, etc.

The most flexible and proven setup is still GC/Koni.

 

No idea who makes the shocks for edelbrock - but interestingly they use an inverted shock (by the looks of the pic) - to my knowledge, none of the other major tuners do this.

 

I think they're brand new to the market - not even sure if they're selling yet.

They appear to be a "street" setup... judging from the 250lb springs pictured.

 

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Edelbrock claims to make their own shocks... I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't true though.

I wonder why they chose to make the springs so long. If they'd run the threads down lower they could have saved a decent amount of spring weight.

 

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Edelbrock claims to make their own shocks... I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't true though.

I wonder why they chose to make the springs so long. If they'd run the threads down lower they could have saved a decent amount of spring weight. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Edelbrock has been making the IAS shocks for the domestic / off roading market for about 5 years now (may be more). and yes, they do make thier own.

 

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They appear to be a "street" setup... judging from the 250lb springs pictured.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, Edelbrock makes the shocks themselves, and tunes all of the valving on actual cars. I have a set of them installed on my ride for almost a year now. For autocross, you would probably want stiffer springs, but the shocks work excellent. The IAS valve stiffens up the shock on smooth roads and works faster to absorb bumps when you get a lot of wheel movement.

The front springs are 250lb and 150lb on the rear. I also have the Eibach sway bars. When SCC tested my car, they were impressed with how nice it handled in the slalom. Unfortunately, they lost the performance data they took that day and never re-ran the test. Sucks! I remember the driver reading off a average time thru the test, which he took the slalom for like 20 minutes, and I calculated the speed based on that and was 72.5 mph. Wish I had the skidpad test results as well.

Since they are Eibach springs, there is a good supply of replacements to change the ride/performance.

 

Definately a "street performance" coilover.

I really dont think that IAS garbage is something you want on the track.

 

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Haha...depends....I know a guy overthere, and he told me he can rebuild mine and change the valving on it whenever I want. And you know from personal experience that its garbage? smartass!

 

well they are for sale at my shop. they run $240 each. once again i haven't talked with anyone from edelbrock, but will post up some info once they respond to my email.

So far im left with the GC/KYB AGX or the Edelbrocks. either way im getting a name brand that you can trust and both setups have race proven names to back them up. the GC/KYB setup is going to cost me about 40% less though...and money is a big issue when it comes to the car. im just not sure what is going to be best for me...yet.

 

I wouldn't pay $1000 for them personally. I could think of any number of things I'd rather have, depending on what I was using the car for.

Apexi WS
Koni/GC
etc.

I mean... I even bought a used sets of AD's for $1100...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And you know from personal experience that its garbage? smartass!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know I want consistency. I know I dont want a shock changing the damping rates as it sees fit, according to how bumpy it thinks the road is.
And I certainly dont have to be a smartass to know that.

 

Crack Monkey: Bilstein (and thus H&R) uses an inverted damper design, as does Ohlins.
-Adam

 

it sounds to me like the edelbrock shock has softer fast damping and harder slow damping. i think thats what is meant by 'stiffens up on smooth roads'.
it helps to smooth out the sharp jolts well, while at the same time keeping the damping pretty stiff for corner entry, braking, etc. at least in theory =P

 

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-Adam</TD></TR></TABLE>

Inverted shocks with bolt-on Honda/Acura kits? Or custom applications?