Just wanted to know if any one has had any experience with H & R coilovers for the crx good or bad opinions because im thinking of selling my koni/gc setup because the roads in virginia beach just suck I bottom out atleast 3 times a day.

 

I have them on my track car. I am thinking about changing to a Koni set up because the H & R's are to soft. And to run higher spring rates, I would need to send them to germany to have them revalved. At least that is what I was told by H&R.


They are great for a street/ track car, but for a car that only see's the track like mine, they are to soft.

I have been very happy with mine especially when I was using them on the street!

 

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Raise the car or raise the spring rates....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prkiller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have them on my track car. I am thinking about changing to a Koni set up because the H & R's are to soft. And to run higher spring rates, I would need to send them to germany to have them revalved. At least that is what I was told by H&R.


They are great for a street/ track car, but for a car that only see's the track like mine, they are to soft.

I have been very happy with mine especially when I was using them on the street!</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you using the H&R Cup Kit coilovers, or are you using the full race ones? there is a big difference. H&R makes great stuff, as RJ suggested, i would guess you're running too low.

 

I run H&Rs on my VW, which is a daily driver as well as track toy. The Bilstein dampers in the H&R coilovers, like most any damper, will not work properly if you are using them at either extreme end of their range of travel. Your suspension will suffer from extremely poor damping if you run them "dumped," as I suspect you might be. A centimeter or two of increased ride height can do wonders with them. Once you have them in their sweet spot, they should provide you with a very controlled, smooth and comfortable setup. It's great if your car sees primarily street time, and the track every month or two. If you're driving the car primarily on the track or it's your dedicated autocross machine, you'll want to step up to firmer spring rates and possibly revalve the dampers.

I switched from a sport spring-and-OTS-Koni setup to the H&R coilover kit and noticed remarkably better ride quality and far more sensitive handling. The car does what I tell it to, and it does it smoothly and predictably. In comparison, the Konis I ran seemed to over-damp (even at their least-aggressive setting) the Neuspeed sport springs, which resulted in a jittery ride and "choppy" handling on the track. The car could be coaxed into a bit of rotation, but once sliding, tended to hop around. With the H&Rs, it feels as if the suspension is just plain working more smoothly and controlling things better without over-damping the springs. Of course, the Konis on a Honda might be totally different. CRXLee could surely shed some light on this.

From the folks I have talked to who have run H&Rs on BMWs and VWs, you can increase the spring rates 50-75 pounds-per-inch before the dampers will run out of damping. After that, you can send them to Bilstein or H&R for revalving, which will run about $100 per damper, plus shipping both ways. I do believe revalving is available through Bilstein in the U.S., but I haven't inquired seriously about it.

-Adam

 

Also depends on what model H&R coils you have. The new PCS or RSS models are damping-adjustable, but the older coils are only height-adjustable.

Cup Kits.. blah!

 

My issue with the PCS and RSS kits is that they adjust compression as well as rebound damping at the same time. Even H&R recommends getting their standard coilovers revalved to match higher rates if that's what you really need/want to run.
-Adam

 

I use the H&R Type R Road Race coilovers.