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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Ok heres the deal. I drive a 95 eg coupe. I have a 98jdm b18c, dc sports 4-1 headers, apexi n1 catback, pr3 ecu chipped to skunk 2 specs but with a few modifications.....vtec kicks in really strong at 5600. I still have the stock fuel pump, d series short ram intake and stock catalytic converter....I will be getting all aftermarket parts for those soon..... My question is, should my car be able to run up against a stock 99+ mustang gt? If not, what else needs to be done? The reason i ask is b/c i was thinkin about takin this guy up to the track who has a 01/02 gt bc he thinks his car is the best and i think my car can take it but im not sure. Any feedback would be great! thanks!


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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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you should hang with it at least. What trim is it? BTW.. Look into cams or an intake manifold.
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Hey this isn't an E-Racing forum but I do see a few things that you may be a little mistaken on. Unless you have a seriously built head and someway to make power up that high, revving over your stock revlimit is stupid. End of story. Also, messing with your VTEC crossover without a dyno is stupid as well. As is dumping in "a lot" of extra gas.

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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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i hope he's not revving to 9500 .. the cams won't even pull that high and stretching a rod bolt or floating a vizalve is highly possible.
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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ive beat a GT and i have a hatch with a jdm b16a, cold air and exhaust pulled on him 2-3 cars by the time i hit 65
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IDriveAHonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i hope he's not revving to 9500 .. the cams won't even pull that high and stretching a rod bolt or floating a vizalve is highly possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, this is the greatest topic EVAR
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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well if it is a 5 sp gt you are going to need alot more i would imagine. Also you need to post this **** somewhere else
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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cams, cam gears, pistons, valvetrain, slicks, and a gust of wind. no prob. Oh yeah, I call your bluff ssrcx94. R U sure u beat a GT? I know you have problems with ls hatches thats of course if you're stock.
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95civicracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...Also you need to post this **** somewhere else</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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lol no i never rev past 7700...7600 is max hp according to honda specs so i always try to take it around there. The stang is a 5spd i believe. The ecu is really powerful and it was reprogrammed by a very good place. Ive never felt this much out of just an ecu before and my mechanic said the same thing. I dont see how getting the extra fuel from having the ecu is a bad thing though?
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrchris386 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok heres the deal. I drive a 95 eg coupe. I have a 98jdm b18c, dc sports 4-1 headers, apexi n1 catback, pr3 ecu chipped to skunk 2 specs for a gsr....rev limit 9500, vtec 5600 and it kicks in strong bc it dumps so much fuel. I still have the stock fuel pump, d series short ram intake and stock catalytic converter....I will be gettin all aftermarket parts for those soon..... My question is, should my car be able to run up against a stock 99+ mustang gt? If not, what else needs to be done? The reason i ask is b/c i was thinkin about takin this guy up to the track who has a 01/02 gt bc he thinks his car is the best and i think my car can take it but im not sure. Any feedback would be great! thanks! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless you can run high 13's to low 14's, you will get your *** handed to you. I would say your setup is good for high 14's, maybe mid 14's at best. The "Skunk" chip that I have here is *** and lost me 10whp on the dyno due to its extremely agressive timing curves. You might also be surprised to know that it was as "rich" as you might think.
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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where should i post this? i figured since this is an eg forum it would be ok. Are you sure your skunk chip is ok? When i put mine in i could feel a definate increase in power so i know im not losing any power and i know its not ***.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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cams, cam gears, pistons, valvetrain, slicks, and a gust of wind. no prob. Oh yeah, I call your bluff ssrcx94. R U sure u beat a GT? I know you have problems with ls hatches thats of course if you're stock.

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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TURBO
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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it all depends on the driver.. but most likely you're going to get your *** handed to you.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Actually it shouldn't be that hard to beat him. I love running these V8 Stangs at TestNTune here at Atlanta Dragway. You need to change your fuel pump to a B-series unit. Maybe a FPR. You definitely need a VAFC to lean out all that fuel you're dumping w/ that chip. Also most Skunk2 programs I hear of the VTEC X-over is 4600 or 4800rpm. It's never at 5600rpm. I don't know??? Also a Skunk2 intake manifold would do wonders to that motor if you're running a chipped P28.


If that Stang has a cam, blower, heads or anything like that. It's not gonna happen(just being real). Unless he sux at driving.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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maybe a stang gt....with nos, can beat a stang gt
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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u should be able 2 rip it if is stock
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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rear sway, and a decent suspension, he won't be able to hang with you on an auto-x course.....oh yeah, 1/4 is the only motorsport
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Unless you can run high 13's to low 14's, you will get your *** handed to you. I would say your setup is good for high 14's, maybe mid 14's at best. The "Skunk" chip that I have here is *** and lost me 10whp on the dyno due to its extremely agressive timing curves. You might also be surprised to know that it was as "rich" as you might think. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Since when do GT's run 13s stock? They don't. His car should be able to take the mustang without a problem. Just because it has 8 cylinders doesn't mean it is fast. I think you guys all need to take a look at the power to weight ratio of the stang and then guestimate how much power the civic is making and the compare the power to weight ratios. Or you could go look up the stock time on the mustang. NOT A 13. Holy ****, somone mentions racing a V8 and everyone in the room gets scared.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it all depends on the driver.. but most likely you're going to get your *** handed to you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? I'm curious to know how you came to that conclusion?
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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sheemo3, do i know u, stock gts r not that that fast and yes it was a gt i know the guy
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slammed92hbonN20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u should be able 2 rip it if is stock</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong!!
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-97CX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Since when do GT's run 13s stock? They don't. His car should be able to take the mustang without a problem. Just because it has 8 cylinders doesn't mean it is fast. I think you guys all need to take a look at the power to weight ratio of the stang and then guestimate how much power the civic is making and the compare the power to weight ratios. Or you could go look up the stock time on the mustang. NOT A 13. Holy ****, somone mentions racing a V8 and everyone in the room gets scared.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If its a 99+ you had better think again. It will run with it but beat it i dont think so. I know what you mean about the whole V8 thing but in this case he would probably not win!!
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rear sway, and a decent suspension, he won't be able to hang with you on an auto-x course.....oh yeah, 1/4 is the only motorsport </TD></TR></TABLE>

This is very much correct but in a straight line which i am pretty sure the original poster is refering too...he will lose!! So in otherwords tell him that dragging sux and you wanna going auto-xing .
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