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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Default Anyway to run DSM injectors w/out hondata/vafc/any type of tunning?

long story short, stupid me jumped on the DSM injector bandwagon without reserach enought about it and bought a set of 390s 3 months ago. this weekend i was very bored so i decided to install them basically getting ready to get my car tunned.

motor: gsr with ctr pistons, pnp, skunk2 IM, jdm 4-1 blah blah so on.

-now the motor runs super uber rich (sparkplugs are black!!!)
-it idles "okay"
-if you just tap the gas slightly, the motor will choke and idle about 500 then back to 900-1000. sometimes it'll idle low and dies.


so i researched and found out that it has to be tunned to run right....shame on me

is there anyway i can run them for now until i get it tunned? without running super rich? any help would be great...if this can't be done i'll just go back to stock 240cc until i get it tunned. yes im a noob flame away
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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Default Re: Anyway to run DSM injectors w/out hondata/vafc/any type of tunning? (SLOW4drINTEG)

would lower the fpr help?

bump because im dumb
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Anyway to run DSM injectors w/out hondata/vafc/any type of tunning? (SLOW4drINTEG)

your better off with the stock 240cc's.... the car chokes because there is so much fuel, to correct it, you must run a VAFC, or HONDATA, and get it tuned... but there is other alternatives tho, BTW, why don't you use prelude inj.. there like 360ish cc's.... i hope that helps....

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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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How can you manage fuel without managment?
You need to do something to manage them.
Put the stocks back in.
How do you plan to "tune" them without hondata/AFC hack?
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Anyway to run DSM injectors w/out hondata/vafc/any type of tunning? (ThatOneGirl)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ThatOneGirl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your better off with the stock 240cc's.... the car chokes because there is so much fuel, to correct it, you must run a VAFC, or HONDATA, and get it tuned... but there is other alternatives tho, BTW, why don't you use prelude inj.. there like 360ish cc's.... i hope that helps....

-marie</TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe preludes are 290.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Anyway to run DSM injectors w/out hondata/vafc/any type of tunning? (kid-honda)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kid-honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I believe preludes are 290.</TD></TR></TABLE> 92-96 preludes (345ish).. peak and hold...

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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kid-honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How can you manage fuel without managment?
You need to do something to manage them.
Put the stocks back in.
How do you plan to "tune" them without hondata/AFC hack?</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry if you miss read my question. i am planning on getting it tuned with hondata just not right away. just trying to see if i can "get by" till tuned. sorry for my stupid noob question i guess i'll switch back to 240cc till im ready to tune my car.

i think 97+ ludes are 290cc and 95-96 vtec ludes are 345cc? correct me if i'm wrong.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ThatOneGirl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your better off with the stock 240cc's.... the car chokes because there is so much fuel, to correct it, you must run a VAFC, or HONDATA, and get it tuned... but there is other alternatives tho, BTW, why don't you use prelude inj.. there like 360ish cc's.... i hope that helps....

-marie</TD></TR></TABLE>

what are the alternatives?


thanks for the help!!
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLOW4drINTEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i think 97+ ludes are 290cc and 95-96 vtec ludes are 345cc? correct me if i'm wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE> correct..., and as for the other, just switch the injectors to preludes... good luck

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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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but i can use the dsm 390cc when i get it tuned with hondata right? *fingers crossed*
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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yes you can..... later

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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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if you want you can run a fields vtec controller with your 390cc for now,you can lower them to about 280-290 (-30%)with it and they run for around 100 bucks, sell it once you get hondata,or go back to stockers.
just a though
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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thanks for the reply but for now i think i will just go back to stock injectors unless i can find a fields vtec controller for cheap its a pain in the butt to switch injectors and solder the clips
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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ok put a set of obd1s back in..running like it used to be didn't have to solder since the dsm clips work with obd1 injectors (had crappy obd2s before) thanks for everyones help!!!! can't wait to get this thing tuned
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