D1 Grand Prix Pics
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D1 Grand Prix Pics
I never really took interest in drifting. But after today, I have a new found respect for those drivers. They have awesome skill.
That guy won the event
check out that smoke
Daytona Dodge Viper. Driver holding American flag
Duck tape...a racer's best friend.
That guy hit the wall in the first round.
Do I hear Initial D?
That guy won the event
check out that smoke
Daytona Dodge Viper. Driver holding American flag
Duck tape...a racer's best friend.
That guy hit the wall in the first round.
Do I hear Initial D?
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Re: D1 Grand Prix Pics (Andrew 825SM)
Hmmm - GTO seems like an interesting tool for the job.
My plan is a Volvo 740 Turbo wagon tweaked with big blow and a RECARO child seat in the back. Go for the middle-aged white guy personna (not a big stretch, except for the kid thing) and play the anti-urban spoiler on the card.
Wear polo shirts and khakis. Listen to '80s music in the paddock. Get sponsorship from mortgage companies, Eddie Bauer, and Kraft foods...
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My plan is a Volvo 740 Turbo wagon tweaked with big blow and a RECARO child seat in the back. Go for the middle-aged white guy personna (not a big stretch, except for the kid thing) and play the anti-urban spoiler on the card.
Wear polo shirts and khakis. Listen to '80s music in the paddock. Get sponsorship from mortgage companies, Eddie Bauer, and Kraft foods...
K
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Re: D1 Grand Prix Pics (Knestis)
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My plan is a Volvo 740 Turbo wagon tweaked with big blow and a RECARO child seat in the back. Go for the middle-aged white guy personna (not a big stretch, except for the kid thing) and play the anti-urban spoiler on the card.
Wear polo shirts and khakis. Listen to '80s music in the paddock. Get sponsorship from mortgage companies, Eddie Bauer, and Kraft foods...
K</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like it. One of my employees has an older Volvo 960 with a Ford 5.0 and just bought a clean soccer mom gold 740 Wagon from the Goodwill auction and is trying to get a Crown Vic police cruiser drivetrain for it.
Overheard at the next the next winner's interview "Yeah, the Land's End, Sperry Docksider, Izod, Girl Scout Cookie Volvo slid well today. I'd especially like to thank the St. Ignatz Girl's School Lacrosse Team for their support."
Take that JDM boyz!
My plan is a Volvo 740 Turbo wagon tweaked with big blow and a RECARO child seat in the back. Go for the middle-aged white guy personna (not a big stretch, except for the kid thing) and play the anti-urban spoiler on the card.
Wear polo shirts and khakis. Listen to '80s music in the paddock. Get sponsorship from mortgage companies, Eddie Bauer, and Kraft foods...
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I like it. One of my employees has an older Volvo 960 with a Ford 5.0 and just bought a clean soccer mom gold 740 Wagon from the Goodwill auction and is trying to get a Crown Vic police cruiser drivetrain for it.
Overheard at the next the next winner's interview "Yeah, the Land's End, Sperry Docksider, Izod, Girl Scout Cookie Volvo slid well today. I'd especially like to thank the St. Ignatz Girl's School Lacrosse Team for their support."
Take that JDM boyz!
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Re: D1 Grand Prix Pics (CRX Lee)
I was talking at SEMA with a name brand Mustang tuner and some others. Trying to see what the best way to have some impact in the drift world. Until the Asian teams stop being the dominant force with cars coming from over there with JDM suspension kits, Koni is not going to have access to any drifting exposure.
On the otherhand, aren't the Americans known for sporty cars with lots of power and torque enought to roast rear tires? Wait until the Mustang and Camaro contingent wake up and realize that they have 400-500hp easily with solid rear axles and can whhop-up on the Japanese slidey boys. I think it is a just a matter of time when someone in one of these cars gets the seat time and the driving style down. Kiwi Rhys Millen has already proven that a pro-rallyist already has similar skills and the new GTO is the first entry into the drift world with an American car. The Mustang tuner I was talking to said he could take his aging American Iron road race Mustang and last year's worn race engine and he has a car easily capable of doing this or more. Now it's just a matter of finding places to practice the driving skills. Bet there will be Konis on it then.
On the otherhand, aren't the Americans known for sporty cars with lots of power and torque enought to roast rear tires? Wait until the Mustang and Camaro contingent wake up and realize that they have 400-500hp easily with solid rear axles and can whhop-up on the Japanese slidey boys. I think it is a just a matter of time when someone in one of these cars gets the seat time and the driving style down. Kiwi Rhys Millen has already proven that a pro-rallyist already has similar skills and the new GTO is the first entry into the drift world with an American car. The Mustang tuner I was talking to said he could take his aging American Iron road race Mustang and last year's worn race engine and he has a car easily capable of doing this or more. Now it's just a matter of finding places to practice the driving skills. Bet there will be Konis on it then.
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Re: D1 Grand Prix Pics (CRX Lee)
interesting to see the japanese market falling into the altezzas on those silvias. i guess they are trying to get america's ttention i guess. they've seen only ricers at most shows so i guess they think its "cool". cant wait til option comes out with the footage. ill have to check it out.
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Re: D1 Grand Prix Pics (Civic44)
That Daytona Viper wasn't in the actual competition, but was just performing demo runs for the crowd. The power induced overtseer on that thing is incredible.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It breaks my heart to see all that sponsorship involved in drifting when they should all be road racing. Hasn't anyone in road racing ever heard of MARKETING!?!?!?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sadly, Club racing and the like doesn't have nearly the spectator appeal to the average Joe. Drifting is the hot thing right now, and the sponsors know that.
Admittedly, seeing all those hot cars wreck is interesting to me. The entertainment factor is definitely there. It's nothing more than a circus. Maybe Ice Capades is an even better analogy.
Knestis--you would be the man if you entered a Volvo wagon--although I didn't know that there were characters like in wrestiling and monster trucks. You would be my hero if you went ahead with that.
Sadly, Club racing and the like doesn't have nearly the spectator appeal to the average Joe. Drifting is the hot thing right now, and the sponsors know that.
Admittedly, seeing all those hot cars wreck is interesting to me. The entertainment factor is definitely there. It's nothing more than a circus. Maybe Ice Capades is an even better analogy.
Knestis--you would be the man if you entered a Volvo wagon--although I didn't know that there were characters like in wrestiling and monster trucks. You would be my hero if you went ahead with that.
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FYI, D1 grand prix has only boomed in Japan in the last few years. The D1 GP series used to be just a small race with average guys who spent their own money. Drifting has always been around, but D1 has boomed in Japan in recent years.
Taniguchi Nobuteru, driver of the Red HKS Sylvia is also a JGTC driver. He drives in GT300.
I used to think drifting was lame.
Taniguchi Nobuteru, driver of the Red HKS Sylvia is also a JGTC driver. He drives in GT300.
I used to think drifting was lame.
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Re: (ITACivic)
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I used to think drifting was lame.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That was my first response but I keep remembering that 30 years ago road racers looked down their noses at guys wasting their time and cars racing around pylons in parking lots one at a time for heaven's sake. Since then autocross seems to have caught on pretty well and given people chance to have motorsports fun.
I think the best analogy is that drifting is to road racing what freestyle motocross is to original motocross. Motorsport for style instead of for speed doesn't alone mean it is bad, just different. If it takes care of itself and brings more enthusiasts to the sport without bringing itself bad publicity, then let those who enjoy it have fun. Doesn't cramp my style and might even help the rest of us in the long run the parts, acceptance, etc.
I used to think drifting was lame.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That was my first response but I keep remembering that 30 years ago road racers looked down their noses at guys wasting their time and cars racing around pylons in parking lots one at a time for heaven's sake. Since then autocross seems to have caught on pretty well and given people chance to have motorsports fun.
I think the best analogy is that drifting is to road racing what freestyle motocross is to original motocross. Motorsport for style instead of for speed doesn't alone mean it is bad, just different. If it takes care of itself and brings more enthusiasts to the sport without bringing itself bad publicity, then let those who enjoy it have fun. Doesn't cramp my style and might even help the rest of us in the long run the parts, acceptance, etc.
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I would do it in a second. Rhys discovered drifting more than a couple of years ago and would probably tell you that it makes more commercial sense than rallying ever did for him...
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I think the best analogy is that drifting is to road racing what freestyle motocross is to original motocross. </TD></TR></TABLE>
What I was thinking but could not express. Great analogy!
I think the best analogy is that drifting is to road racing what freestyle motocross is to original motocross. </TD></TR></TABLE>
What I was thinking but could not express. Great analogy!
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Re: (ITACivic)
[QUOTE=ITACivic]Given the chance to be paid to drive these cars in Japan and USA in front of sold out crowds, would anyone (who thinks drifting is lame) turn down the chance?[QUOTE]
I would give my left n*t to drive anyone of these cars, on the street or at a road race event. Personally, though, drifting just doesn't do anything for me.
But don't get me wrong, I agree with ITACivic, Knestis, and CRXLee that it is a sport in its own right, and everyone is entitled to their own form of entertainment, just as everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Actually, it might be cool to see these guys drift around one of our road racing courses (can you imagine that Viper going around the Horseshoe at Willow Springs sideways?) rather than just the oval bank and flat infield area.
I would give my left n*t to drive anyone of these cars, on the street or at a road race event. Personally, though, drifting just doesn't do anything for me.
But don't get me wrong, I agree with ITACivic, Knestis, and CRXLee that it is a sport in its own right, and everyone is entitled to their own form of entertainment, just as everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Actually, it might be cool to see these guys drift around one of our road racing courses (can you imagine that Viper going around the Horseshoe at Willow Springs sideways?) rather than just the oval bank and flat infield area.
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Re: D1 Grand Prix Pics (CRX Lee)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Lee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait until the Mustang and Camaro contingent wake up and realize that they have 400-500hp easily with solid rear axles and can whhop-up on the Japanese slidey boys.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmmm. Drifting's emphasis on technique and style over speed puts some different demands on a car than you'd expect. Power oversteer is almost never used to initiate a drift, only to control the angle of attack once the car's already sliding. Also, those intangibles about a car.. the things that make it not faster, but easier to drive.. these are the things people strive for with drift cars. You won't see oversized turbos - throttle response matters more than power, and likewise predictability matters more than cornering speed. It turns a lot of things upside down, somewhat.
A better choice for a non-Japanese drift car would be a BMW 3-series...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesn't cramp my style and might even help the rest of us in the long run the parts, acceptance, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
mmmm, parts.
7 years ago there was no US support for the 240SX...
Hmmm. Drifting's emphasis on technique and style over speed puts some different demands on a car than you'd expect. Power oversteer is almost never used to initiate a drift, only to control the angle of attack once the car's already sliding. Also, those intangibles about a car.. the things that make it not faster, but easier to drive.. these are the things people strive for with drift cars. You won't see oversized turbos - throttle response matters more than power, and likewise predictability matters more than cornering speed. It turns a lot of things upside down, somewhat.
A better choice for a non-Japanese drift car would be a BMW 3-series...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesn't cramp my style and might even help the rest of us in the long run the parts, acceptance, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
mmmm, parts.
7 years ago there was no US support for the 240SX...
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Re: D1 Grand Prix Pics (AKADriver)
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Hmmm. Drifting's emphasis on technique and style over speed puts some different demands on a car than you'd expect. Power oversteer is almost never used to initiate a drift, only to control the angle of attack once the car's already sliding. Also, those intangibles about a car.. the things that make it not faster, but easier to drive.. these are the things people strive for with drift cars. You won't see oversized turbos - throttle response matters more than power, and likewise predictability matters more than cornering speed. It turns a lot of things upside down, somewhat.
A better choice for a non-Japanese drift car would be a BMW 3-series...
mmmm, parts. 7 years ago there was no US support for the 240SX...</TD></TR></TABLE>
definitely agreed. i still have a third gen f-body that used to be my main automotive interest until a FC rx7 swayed my ways years ago, and now my main focus is on my 92 hatch for auto-x and track days. whenever i drive that f-body (rarely), the prospects of drifting it are scary at best, other than power over oversteer from a stop. the weight and length is very noticeable, and the steering is vague and isolated. when the engine was out of my civic for its second swap, it took me a good week or two of driving the f-bod to get confident enough with it to even take it to the limit on difficult onramps etc. imo i dont think that they would make a good drift car.
Hmmm. Drifting's emphasis on technique and style over speed puts some different demands on a car than you'd expect. Power oversteer is almost never used to initiate a drift, only to control the angle of attack once the car's already sliding. Also, those intangibles about a car.. the things that make it not faster, but easier to drive.. these are the things people strive for with drift cars. You won't see oversized turbos - throttle response matters more than power, and likewise predictability matters more than cornering speed. It turns a lot of things upside down, somewhat.
A better choice for a non-Japanese drift car would be a BMW 3-series...
mmmm, parts.
7 years ago there was no US support for the 240SX...</TD></TR></TABLE>definitely agreed. i still have a third gen f-body that used to be my main automotive interest until a FC rx7 swayed my ways years ago, and now my main focus is on my 92 hatch for auto-x and track days. whenever i drive that f-body (rarely), the prospects of drifting it are scary at best, other than power over oversteer from a stop. the weight and length is very noticeable, and the steering is vague and isolated. when the engine was out of my civic for its second swap, it took me a good week or two of driving the f-bod to get confident enough with it to even take it to the limit on difficult onramps etc. imo i dont think that they would make a good drift car.
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Re: D1 Grand Prix Pics (tnord)
D1 Grand Prix Coverage is now up!!! the event was HUGE with a sold out crowd...
check out every excting moment on
http://www.dailydrivenonline.com
check out every excting moment on
http://www.dailydrivenonline.com