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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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So I get my JICs today and i'm wondering how do set these things up. You can adjust the spring compression and also the height. My question is which do I adjust to get my desired ride hight with out having scales to corner balance? Do I simply tighten the the lock rings untill they just start to compress the springs, then adjust the height?

I know all setups are different, I just wanted a rough idea before I waste a few hours trying to figure it out myself. Thanks for the help guys

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Ok you all suck. How about a little bling photo to enhance this thread:

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AssPenny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So I get my JICs today and i'm wondering how do set these things up. You can adjust the spring compression and also the height. My question is which do I adjust to get my desired ride hight with out having scales to corner balance? Do I simply tighten the the lock rings untill they just start to compress the springs, then adjust the height?

I know all setups are different, I just wanted a rough idea before I waste a few hours trying to figure it out myself. Thanks for the help guys

Craig - Who is going to paint these ghey purple JIC springs</TD></TR></TABLE>

My suspension came with instructions on how to do this. You keep the upper (directly under the spring) adjustable perch tight against the springs and use the lower perch to adjust height.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My suspension came with instructions on how to do this. You keep the upper (directly under the spring) adjustable perch tight against the springs and use the lower perch to adjust height.
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Thats how my old coilovers worked in my 91 teg.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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yea just unlock the lower seat.. and then grab the main body (i grabbed where the other 2 locks meet) and then turn this will cause the sprinng to go into or out of the lower tube. it's actually REALLY easy once you get it. make sure ur spring heights asre the same on the coils though.. and if i'm correct the back left will sag if u count threads. so the back left coil will sit higher in the lower tube.

wait wen i say lower seat i meanm that bottom bracket.. your jic's don't look monotube right? that bottom tube is seperate on there right?
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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ok first of all i've read the instruction and saw that it said to just snug the spring, but I thought you might have to pre-load, guess not.

As for them being monotube, i don't think so, the bottom tub is seperate so you can adjust hight with out changing the spring compression.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My suspension came with instructions on how to do this. You keep the upper (directly under the spring) adjustable perch tight against the springs and use the lower perch to adjust height.

Read, Dummy!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then you start chatting with Doctor Cortez just to get all confused about droop, suspension travel and proper adjustment for height adjustable coilovers.

My head hurt for several days after that chat.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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I'm just going to set the frame on the ground, then raise it up 1/2" for the stunna look.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AssPenny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm just going to set the frame on the ground, then raise it up 1/2" for the stunna look.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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haha, i just posted this exact same questions for my JIC's like 2 days ago.
i emailed JIC and they emailed me a sheet of what does what. you seem to get it though. tighten the top perch snug with spring, second perch right under the 1st (i think?), third sits on top of the lower casing locking it. thats all i really understood sound right?
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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I think they shou;d be sent form the factory with the spring locks in the right place
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Then you start chatting with Doctor Cortez just to get all confused about droop, suspension travel and proper adjustment for height adjustable coilovers.
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I thought I helped

its as simple as this , as you lower the car you need to shorten the shock to keep it in its optimal range.

nothing more , nothing less.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Oh, it did help a lot. I probably understood 75% of what you were trying to explain to me and I sort of understand why.

Now, the difficult part is to get off my lazy *** and adjust them.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Ummm....geee....I just turned the perches till they touched the springs, and then I used the body length to set my ride height. But as I was unscrewing the boss I ran out of threads. WTF! I guess mine must be defective. I wanted them cause when you adjust the ride height with the body length it doesn't change the corner weight.

Scott, who has a Yamaha owners manual that reads "Spring Preload: If the spring seat is raised, the spring becomes stiffer, and if lowered, it becomes softer"....so it must be troo.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Hi Craig! Hi Scott!

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=247965

&lt;butthead&gt;huh huh, he said "preload"&lt;/butthead&gt;
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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My Teins came with instructions that gave me measurements to set them up for their recommended ride height and spring preload. I followed those and the car sat just right, i haven't changed them since. I'm guessing the JICs would come with similar instructions.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 04:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Agent Smith &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi Craig! Hi Scott!

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=247965

&lt;butthead&gt;huh huh, he said "preload"&lt;/butthead&gt;</TD></TR></TABLE>

We might as well be talking about Cowbell.

Scott, who says: It's as simple as this nothing....more nothing.....less
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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no instructions with my JIC's
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Wow, great. Now I'm totally confused after reading Scott's old thread again.

Maybe I'll just let my suspension sit in the box and look pretty. That IS what I bought it for, right?

Chris - who honestly has no idea how to make heads/tails out of this.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, great. Now I'm totally confused after reading Scott's old thread again.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hah! It took me a couple times reading it to understand it, too. His main point is that you want to set the shock body length to prevent the shock from being the first thing to bottom out:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On a G3 with a Skunk upper a-arm the limit of travel is the arm hitting the top of the inner fender / tower. At that point you want to set the shock body length so that there is about 1/4 inch of shaft travel left.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You set the shock body length by screwing the shock body into the bottom part. Note that the 1/4 inch of travel is with the bump stop removed.

Then once you've done that, you set the ride height with the spring perch.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Agent Smith &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then once you've done that, you set the ride height with the spring perch.
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But that will inturn throw your corner balance all off. I think with these jics, the best bet is to set the spring perch so the springs are tight, but no compressed. Install them and corner balance the car. Then use the lower half to adjust your hieght so it doesn't affect your corner weighting.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AssPenny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then use the lower half to adjust your hieght so it doesn't affect your corner weighting.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It don't work that way. You can't change ride height without affecting corner weight. It doesn't matter whether you change the height using the perch or the body length; they'll both have the same effect. You start off by setting your ride height to about where you'd want it, then corner weighting just fine tunes it.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AssPenny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

But that will inturn throw your corner balance all off. I think with these jics, the best bet is to set the spring perch so the springs are tight, but no compressed. Install them and corner balance the car. Then use the lower half to adjust your hieght so it doesn't affect your corner weighting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think this sounds right..
Agent smith, why would you wanna change the height thrug the spring perch instead of thel ower casing that doesnt even effect anything? im going to assume if you do use the spring perch for height adjustment, it WILL pre-load the spring which would make spring load different at every corner..
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Yeah, what he said!

Preload, like Cowbell, isn't affected by adjusting the body length.

Scott, who once jacked all the weight of the car onto the fronts...my ITR was double pissin' just going straight down the road.
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