I've always wondered about trying to drop a cbr 1100 or hayabusa engine into a older civic but couldn't figure out how to have it drive the wheels with it being chain driven? Maybe this is more a GDD topic but it's still consider a hybrid still? I know cycle engines don't have much torque so it'd need to be a very small and light car. Maybe an older mini or mg or something. Ideas and suggestions?

 

That would be cool to see but I dont know if it would be worth it unless your car weighed as much as a bike

 

WHat would be a cheap very light body to use? I'm still thinking like a MG or something along those lines. They already come with headers and ITB's and you can rev the **** out of them and they have 164hp and 94lbs of torque. Basically like a b16 with a little less torque and but weighs weighs less. Hell the whole bike weigh under 500lbs. Just gotta figure out the tranny problem with it being chain driven. Does anyone have any crazy swap ideas?

 

there was a video on a british site...if i find it ill link it here, it had a a rwd escort from the 70s i think powered by a motorcycle engine

 

How about using a Honda 600 (car) from 1970-72? I think it had a chain drive motorcycle style engine for power. I think there was a two door fastback and two door hatchback models. Someone else probably knows more about this than I do.

 

you could always fab an axel to be used with a chain drive just slap a sprocket on it! it would be really easy..you could easly make a rear mount rear drive cycle engine with chain drive...

 

http://www.turbo-nutters.co.uk/videos/escortrr.wmv

see if that works...thats the escort powered by a motorcycle engine,

if not http://www.turbo-nutters.co.uk/videos.htm look on this page

 

Thats kicks ***! Hell and thats only a 900 engine at with like 127hps. The 110 is like 40 more. Here a short little bio of it and I get a kick out watching that video. http://www.turbo-nutters.co.uk...r.htm
After I finish the hatch I may venture into something like this.

 

Reminds me of initial d when Takumi finally gets that's tach installed after that new 20v engine, and realizes the power band of that thing. That escort gets maxium power of 128hp at 11,000 rpms. Listening to that car reminds me of a gas rc car.

 

Anyone think of a lightweight hatch or older roadster. I'm thinking more along of these lines. note just an example.

 

i think that the major problem with this is that the engine will have problems cooling(if air cooled) but the major problem is that the trannies can't sustain the amount of weight it has to push. even the lightest car would take its toll after a while.

 

Most modern engines are liquid cooled nowdays so I don't think that cooling would be that much of a problem. I'm not looking into some older cycle engine being air cooled or carb'd. Hell even a CBR900 is still like 130hp which is the equivalent to a d16z6 or y8 and they may not be the fastest thing but with 6 speeds and with the engine and tranny not weighing too much and powering a rwd chassis. Hey you can still dream can't yeah. Your all probably like why don't you just drop a b18 or b16 in it? Well something different and it's already built for performance straight from the factory and has ITB and headers.

 

you know, if you wanted something a little easier, yet still fun as hell, pick up an S2000 drivetrain and an old MG-B, i think you would be having too much fun for your own good.

 

I've seen that done in an grassroots motorsports magazine from like a year ago. That was pretty crazy also. It's just a smaller package to work with than that s2000 engine and a little cheaper. Does anyone know a cycle that uses a shaft driven tranny? I know some bmw engines do but I'm guess those are major bank. I guess it wouldn't wouldn't really need to be cause the way they did that escort you would just need to get a driveshaft made to fit into the 900's tranny like this.

 

Then the only thing would be that most of the weight would be on the left side of the car in order to have the driveshaft as straight as possible to rear diff. Hmmm....

 

You could get really crazy and throw a 2-cycle engine of some sort. Newer 900cc sleds are easily pushing 160 horse stock and they run very low 12's.

Or, if your psycho about fabrication, my school built a tube-frame car with a CBR600FI with push-button solenoid shifting, independent suspesion with nearly zero bump-steer, and Hoosier-daddies on all fours. It was lighter than the bike, less wheelie-prone, and more traction. After some tuning for the custom parts, it was untouchable.

 

put a motorcycle engine in a go cart.

 

That's basically what we did at school, only it was more like a go-cart on roids.

 

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That video was siiiiiiiiiiiiiick

 

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IMO putting a motorcyle engine into a go-cart is not as gratifying as putting it into a street car. That looks like a pretty cool project car. It reminds me a lot of the NA BTCC cars I used to watch on Euro-ESPN. If I ever figure out how to weld, maybe I'll try doing a similar project car.

It seems like the parts would be pretty inexpensive. A lightweight, RWD shell can be had for $500-$1000. Totalled bikes are pretty inexpensive from what I hear. The only hard part is fabricating the engine mount and finding someone that can make up a custom driveshaft.

 

Say, does anyone had any more info on this car like the specifics of all the work that was done? does anyone also know of any links to similar project cars? anything with a bike motor swapped into it like go carts or cars?

Thanks

EDIT: I found SITunes homepage. They're the people that made the Escort RR car in the vid. They had more info on the building process, specs, pics and vids but they were the same ones already posted above.

http://www.situne.no/index.php?id=10

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The current specs on the Situne Escort CBR:

Project name: Escort RR
Car: 1977 Ford Escort MKII
Engine: 1997 Honda CBR 900 RR TURBO
Gearbox: Honda 6 speed sequencial
Final Drive: Escort RS2000 "banjo" 4,11:1
Suspension: F: Bilstein Coilovers / R: Koni Sport
Brakes: Cosworth 4 pot 283mm / Cosworth 240mm
Wheels: AZEV 7,5x16" / 9x16"
Tyres: Dunlop 195/40-16" / Falken 215/40-16"
Body: Heavily Modified
Paint:
Interior: MOMO
Electronics: Different range of Situne prototypes
Weight: 740Kg

Max power: 200 Bhp @ 11000 rpm
Max torque: 120 Nm @ 10500 rpm
0-100km/h: estimated 5.5 sec
0-402m: estimated 13.5 sec
Top Speed: 180 km/h


Modified by BlueShadow at 10:10 AM 2/17/2004

 

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IMO putting a motorcyle engine into a go-cart is not as gratifying as putting it into a street car. That looks like a pretty cool project car. It reminds me a lot of the NA BTCC cars I used to watch on Euro-ESPN. If I ever figure out how to weld, maybe I'll try doing a similar project car.

It seems like the parts would be pretty inexpensive. A lightweight, RWD shell can be had for $500-$1000. Totalled bikes are pretty inexpensive from what I hear. The only hard part is fabricating the engine mount and finding someone that can make up a custom driveshaft.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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how about smoking some rwd car with ur go cart?.... a go cart shell could possibly weigh less than a bike frame. and have 2 wheels pushing u. no worry of doing wheelies when launching to hard.... i dunno... im inclined to try and start this myself... and u dont necessarily(sp?) need a drive shaft either.. could use a sprocket and chain maybe.... ? /

bikes on avg run 10-11's in the 1/4..

now lets say:
1000cc motor.
go cart frame (stiffened up obviously)
same weight or less then a bike. 400lbs and under.
2 wheels pushing u.

11's in a go cart is kick ***.

what yall think?

 

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how about smoking some rwd car with ur go cart?.... a go cart shell could possibly weigh less than a bike frame. and have 2 wheels pushing u. no worry of doing wheelies when launching to hard.... i dunno... im inclined to try and start this myself... and u dont necessarily(sp?) need a drive shaft either.. could use a sprocket and chain maybe.... ? /

bikes on avg run 10-11's in the 1/4..

now lets say:
1000cc motor.
go cart frame (stiffened up obviously)
same weight or less then a bike. 400lbs and under.
2 wheels pushing u.

11's in a go cart is kick ***.

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I'm just not a big fan of go-carts or tube-framed chassis cars like Papadakis' old Civic. IMO, bragging about a gocart smoking a street car is like bragging about a bike smoking a street car. I dont know much about go-carts, but I'd imagine a fast go-cart is pretty common. Now a fast, lightweight production car with a bike motor powering it is pretty cool...even if it's not as fast as a go cart.


What I'm wondering is if this type of project would work better on a RWD or FWD car.

 

Quaife make a limited slip diff for this application. It is chain driven off the engine and has a reverse gear built in.

My dream autocross car is a CBR powered Honda N600 go-kar. 130 hp in a 1000lb car with six speed sequential, it would be fast as f... you know.

brian g

 

Holy **** now they turbo'd that 900 in that escort. It's starting to look more simple beside fabbing up a cage or mounts for that engine. Here the link to the complete build up of the car and ****. Very interesting. http://www.situne.no/index.php?id=101