Ok, I have a 2000 R with a turbo in it. Check it out here http://www.scottstyper.s5.com I am a moron and i need to know what to do next. I am so afraid of blowing the motor but i don't want to do all the the work and not get a lot of power. Someone told me that all i have to do is sleeve the block, raise the boost, and tune it and i could make like 300 whp. I have no idea what is involved in sleeving the block and how much it would cost me. Exactly what do I have to do to make it as safe as possible and still have some nice power gains. Right now I am only puting down about 200 at the wheels. Please help me. Thanks. Also, when it was put on, it wa put on the dyno and the a/f ratios were looked at and i am running a little rich.

 

holy geez man, just be glad I'm not an *** or I'd open a can on ya. Ok, first, how much do you know about your b18c5 and turbo kit? Becuz from the sound of it, its not a whole lot. It is curitial that you know this stuff like the back of your girl friend. And the front for that matter.

the next thing you should do is see what your boosting to and make sure its not to high (6-8 psi for stock inerds) if its ok, drive to your neerest book store and find all the stuff you can on hondas and turbos and read the **** out of it. Ask around, talk to people, search the web. Howstuffworks.com has great stuff on turbos and engin mechanics and links to more indepth pages on the topic. That way you won't be posting " Help, Im a moron. " type staments that will only get you chastized...

 

only 200whp?! what psi are you running?

You really can put down 300whp on stock block. its all in the tuning... get a hondata s200 system, gm 3bar map sensor, some 550cc injectors, new fuel pump, install it all and have it tuned to about 14psi by st00pid or some other reputable hondata tuner.

-ryan

 

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14 psi????? are you out of your mind? its all stock bottom. I would blow my car up. I am looking for ways to make it safe, not kill it.

 

Stay with your stock block and with the stuff that teg listed you hsould be fine. Thats around what I have as well. 10 would be fine if you get your car tuned. I know a couple that run that on our cars daily without a problem and you should be able to make 300 plus with 10 pounds. i will be running 10 as well when i get mine tuned. Another thing you can do to be safer is run an inlinepro headgasket to drop your compression.
Again what is your set up, because if you have a boosted b18c5 you should be making well over 200 like around 240-250ish on 5 pounds with no problem.

 

Pistons+rods+15psi=400 hp.

Edit: Other misc parts are required as well, ie injectors, engine management, fuel pump, exhaust, etc....

Do your homework.

 

Car looks good, I have a small suggestion if you like.

I think you should move that air filter, right now your sucking up all the hot air that is coming through your radiator.

 

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14 psi????? are you out of your mind? its all stock bottom. I would blow my car up. I am looking for ways to make it safe, not kill it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

god you are an idiot.

tuning is what determines where your motor goes... if you have an 11.8:1 a/f and pull out 1.25 degrees of timing per lb/boost then you can have a happy 280whp. if you have 12.5:1 a/f and take out no timing at 10 psi you'll blow the **** out of your motor... let alone 14...

you need to learn to play the game and not let it play you. People who blow their motors run 14psi... on friggen FMUs. if you insist on building the motor, geat some eagle rods and je pistons in 10:1 c/r tune it to 12 or 13 psi and you'll have 300whp or so

-ryan

 

I figure you learn as you go. Everyone has to start somewhere. What teg says is very true in tuning and though i feel I know a good bit I learn new things everyday. I now know more about tunning from what teg said about it. But it all does come donw to the tuning of the car. Make sure you have a great tuner to do so.

 

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god you are an idiot.

tuning is what determines where your motor goes... if you have an 11.8:1 a/f and pull out 1.25 degrees of timing per lb/boost then you can have a happy 280whp. if you have 12.5:1 a/f and take out no timing at 10 psi you'll blow the **** out of your motor... let alone 14...


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Stock ITR pistons and rods cannot take 14 lbs of boost, I don't care who your tuner is.

 

I do know of a couple guys with stock internals running that and they seem to be running well. Not to say thats the smartess and best thing to do. But it is possible.

 

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Are they running 14 lbs every day, boosting alot, and driving circut tracks? ****, with race gas you can probably get a run or two on the dyno at 14lbs, but everyday? Not a chance.

 

He says he runs it regulary not sure road courses or not. But he runs mostly 11-13 pounds and he ran that for the last 2 or so years but there was a stretch at the beganing he ran 14. Not sure how long though. Me personally would never do anything over 10 and thats with stoopid tuning my car lol.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FOrSfEd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He says he runs it regulary not sure road courses or not. But he runs mostly 11-13 pounds and he ran that for the last 2 or so years but there was a stretch at the beganing he ran 14. Not sure how long though. Me personally would never do anything over 10 and thats with stoopid tuning my car lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what size turbo? while turbo A will make 260whp at 14psi, turbo B will make 360whp at 14psi.. i can't say its not possible for stock motor to hit mid 300's, but it would have to be low milage already in perfect condition and it won't last long neither. more hp = shorter life.

 

wow, this post has me all confused.

you are only putting down 200whp on a turbo'd type R?

Lets start with the basics and move on from there. It looks as though you are running a Drag Kit. Are you using an FMU for fuel management? Basically to get 300whp(5-7psi) you need something better than a FMU. Surprisingly enough im going to suggest Hondata because a C5 is like a $4000 engine, and since you can afford to throw in a turbo kit w/o knowing ****, im sure yuo can afford the hondata. Basically make sure you have some 440cc injectors atleast. buy a hondata. have someone tune it for 5-7psi daily. there is your 300whp. MAKE SURE THE TUNER KNOWS HIS ****!!!

The type R is a tough engine to tune. it has a very high compression. You do not want to have your motor blow, so find a guy that tunes hondata very well. Do not sign any sort of waiver that says hes not responsible if the motor blows. Get someone that is confident in their skills as a tuner and is willing to say "****, ill buy you a new C5 if it blows". thats the guy you want tuning your car.

Looks like your car is ready for the 300whp, just gotta upgrade that fuel management. also dont forget about your clutch. you need something that is going to handle the 230ft lbs of torque you are going to put down

 

&lt;--------- 84k miles, stock internals, Inline pro Head gasket and block gaurd, cartech FMU, 450cc injectors, missing link, 255lph fuel pump, and afc. I run 15psi all day everyday on pump gas. the car is tuned to low 11:1 AF ratio cause with the FMU I couldn't really get it too much leaner without it starting to throw a lot of timing at the motor. with a stock exhaust and street tires I went 13.0@109mph on pump gas....it can be done talk to people who know their **** and you will be fine

 

I made 300whp on 14.5psi on stock motor with rc 44occ, fuel rail, regulator, and Apex powerFC(3 years with no motor trouble beside the turbo needing to be fixed)

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Stock ITR pistons and rods cannot take 14 lbs of boost, I don't care who your tuner is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedITR41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">&lt;--------- 84k miles, stock internals, Inline pro Head gasket and block gaurd, cartech FMU, 450cc injectors, missing link, 255lph fuel pump, and afc. I run 15psi all day everyday on pump gas. the car is tuned to low 11:1 AF ratio cause with the FMU I couldn't really get it too much leaner without it starting to throw a lot of timing at the motor. with a stock exhaust and street tires I went 13.0@109mph on pump gas....it can be done talk to people who know their **** and you will be fine</TD></TR></TABLE>


You the MAN! (stock exhaust and street tires)

 

 

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Stock compression? Impressive.


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What compression?

 

the head gasket drops compression roughly a full point

 

If people are running 10 psi all the time while driving it everyday, would it be safe for me...(after i do the above stated mods of course) to put in a boost controller and put a high/low boost switch in. That way I could run 6 psi all the time, and 10 psi ONLY for race applications. Would that be ok?

 

tune tune tune...10 psi on race gas should be fine with a good tune

 

He was on 10 flat--had a custom head gasket

 

if ur putting down only 200ish i suggest u do a compression check on ur motor...

i have a jdm itr motor @ 7lbs i'm only putting down 194 to the wheels, turns out i'm losing compression because i have some bent valves...

my setup is stock jdm itr motor
turbonetics t3/teo4b from fmax kit
log manifold, dp, and intercooler from fmax kit
s100b, 91 octane gas tuned by St00pid

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so i think u should check urs out...

but if u want to hit 300 w/ 7lbs of boost, i'd suggest u keep ur compression instead of dropping it, buy hondata instead of using an fmu, upgrade ur injectors, sell the delta wg and buy a tial, sell the turbo u have on right now and buy like a sc61 or gt35e turbo this will get u 300, thas if ur motor is still fine...

if you plan on taking the shops advice on sleeving the block, then u might as well rebuild ur entire engine at that point because there's no point in dissassembling everything and not upgrading the rest...

but seriously... if u have to ask these questions then i think u need to do a lil more research just my opinion tho... good luck with what u do...