I have recently installed my s100w/ boost. my vtec is set to 5000rpms (type r cams) When vtec comes on under boost, I experience a drastic loss of power along with hesitation although air fuels stay between 11.5 and 12.5. It seems worst in first gear. Anyone have this problem?

 

search "hesitation" in this forum, tons of threads on it.

and yes ppl have been having problems.

also check the hondata message board. there are some solutions.
http://www.hondata.com

just read a new thread on where hondata solved it for one guy and it was due to problems not related to hondata, faulty wiring, temp sensors, etc..

 

It really depends on your motor setup, how much boost you're running, etc. but on an FI motor sometimes having the VTEC too high will make it take a dump in power... If you're set too high and you drop it down most of the time it'll broaden your powerband slightly... Typically we set it to x-over anywhere from 4000-4800rpm depending on the setup... Just my $0.02, Good Luck

 

I'm running a b18c1 10:1 je pistons, eagle rods, b16 head w/ rev valvetrain, type r cams, jg intake manifold, gt35e turbo, hondata s100b @ 8psi.

 

It's your Hondata.

BTW - Get rid of the R cams on your boosted application.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=550794
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=207823

 

what about the hondata? not everyone runniing hondata has this problem. the gsr/typer cam debate will never end.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostismycrack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about the hondata? not everyone runniing hondata has this problem. the gsr/typer cam debate will never end.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What the hell do you mean the debate will never end.
Talk to any reputable tuner and see what they prefer.
ITR's have more overlap for N/A applications.....why the hell do you want that on your turbo motor?
Maybe the debate will never end where your at, but I thinks its been pretty much settled here for years.

Second, the Hondata issue.....read the ******* links I posted.
2b & 3b users dont have the problems that the S100 and S200 users are having.

 

type r have made over 500whp in boosted applications, so whatever dude. Too much coffee for you, sorry I missed your links, I'll go read them now.

 

ya know its funny, we made 540whp on ITR cams, and im pretty sure Boostfed made 600 on his as well. just to name a few.

feel free to take your foot out of your mouth at any time

 

We've always run GSR's but I've definately seen good stuff from ITR cams... Nick runs them in his Teg and that thing runs awesome...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya know its funny, we made 540whp on ITR cams, and im pretty sure Boostfed made 600 on his as well. just to name a few.

feel free to take your foot out of your mouth at any time </TD></TR></TABLE>

ITR's are great with boost. I made 535whp on them @ 21psi.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya know its funny, we made 540whp on ITR cams, and im pretty sure Boostfed made 600 on his as well. just to name a few.

feel free to take your foot out of your mouth at any time </TD></TR></TABLE>

ITR's are great with boost. I made 535whp on them @ 21psi.

btw- how does you timing map look like? Your are right in the the center of the cross over from low speed and high speed.

Take a closer look at your timing map. Most timing maps should be linear with a upward movement.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by psi420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What the hell do you mean the debate will never end.
Talk to any reputable tuner and see what they prefer.
ITR's have more overlap for N/A applications.....why the hell do you want that on your turbo motor?
Maybe the debate will never end where your at, but I thinks its been pretty much settled here for years.

Second, the Hondata issue.....read the ******* links I posted.
2b & 3b users dont have the problems that the S100 and S200 users are having.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hell ****...**** hell...calm the **** down

and like mase said...let us know when ur gonna take ur foot out of ur mouth...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya know its funny, we made 540whp on ITR cams, and im pretty sure Boostfed made 600 on his as well. just to name a few.

feel free to take your foot out of your mouth at any time </TD></TR></TABLE>

Own3d.

To the thread starter, datalogs help a ton for diagnosis. Got any? There are a few of us here that can look at them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya know its funny, we made 540whp on ITR cams, and im pretty sure Boostfed made 600 on his as well. just to name a few.

feel free to take your foot out of your mouth at any time </TD></TR></TABLE>

As soon as I get my **** out of your mom.

 

That was very mature of you...

 

change your vtec engagement maybe? I believe the generally selections are 4200 on a D series and 4800 on a B series. Try it out, it might work for ya. Otherwise it could be vaccum map problems.

 

Thanks I'll look into that.

 

Thanks ladysman, my fjo is comming in today, my previous wideband is 5 yrs old, no datalog capabilities. I will try to get it up and running later but its been raining for days here, so hard to tune.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by psi420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's your Hondata.

BTW - Get rid of the R cams on your boosted application.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=550794
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=207823
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there have been serveral posts showing 20hp gains with ITR cams over GSR cams...search em' up!

mike

 

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You know what.....no one asked you.
Keep your ******* comments to yourself.

 

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there have been serveral posts showing 20hp gains with ITR cams over GSR cams...search em' up!

mike</TD></TR></TABLE>

Better yet, why dont you show me.
I am interested in seeing dyno charts with strictly cam comparison on a boosted motor.

 

goddamn't wrong link

 

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Re: gsr or itr cams......better? (gsrcivict) 4:02 PM 1/7/2003 Reply Edit

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i believe we made about 20-30 more hp with the type r cams on my gsr motor. All i have is my current dyno sheet though, so i can't show the difference.

[Modified by autoEXturbo, 5:05 PM 1/7/2003]

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=704660

there ya go smartass

mike</TD></TR></TABLE>

Of course he's gonna make more over the Si cams.
Thats a given, put the test to the GSR vs the ITR

Or, do you have another link for my smartass?