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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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Default GSR rear brake conversion on EK...is my list complete?

all these parts are coming off a gsr...

calipers, rotors, pads, hubs, ebrake cables, brackets, master cylinder, brake booster, prop valve and rear trailing arms.

what rear trailing arms would work best for a ek? and will a prop valve from a 99 si work (as long as it has a 40/40 stamp)

i've searched and this is what i came up with...
am i missing anything at all? thanks
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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i know this information is on this site under the FAQ, but unless you have ABS you can't use the MC, or the proportioning valve
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know this information is on this site under the FAQ, but unless you have ABS you can't use the MC, or the proportioning valve</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not even the non ABS Si prop valve?
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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i don't have abs
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek_jeremy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't have abs</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, so I thought you'd need the prop valve of the non-abs Si. Check the "How to put X brakes on Y car" thread on this page.
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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99-00 si dont have abs you can use the prop. valve and mc from the si
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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gsr master cylinder bolts right in, correct?
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek_jeremy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all these parts are coming off a gsr...
i've searched and this is what i came up with...
am i missing anything at all? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

bump
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Default Re: GSR rear brake conversion on EK...is my list complete? (ek_jeremy)

get e brake cables froma 99-00 si. Integra ones will work, but a little short. I have an EK too, and did the swap. If i find some SI cables I will defiantely swap them out. IMO it doesnt feel safe cuz the e brake adjuster screw it out pretty far to compensate for the shortness of the integ cables. Good luck
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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i had the same problems with the E-brake cables being too short. I called a local honda dealership looking for the 99-00Si coupe prop. valve so that i could have it before i did my swap and i was told that the part numbers were only 1 off of each other and that it shouldn't make a difference. I got no other help on the issue so i did the swap using the stock prop. valve that came on my 98 EX and have had no problems with stopping or with a mushy pedal at all (I am also using my stock master cyliner). Just make sure that you bleed the brakes (all four) very good. I also wanted to use the lower control arms off the integra since i got the rear sway bar too, but they are too short for the EK's resulting in hella positive camber so i put on the stock EK ones and have had no problems since October 2002.
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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I don't have ABS and I'm using a GSR MC and booster. Works fine. I'm also using stock e-brake cables. I would agree with what someone said above, get Si cables because it's a little unsettling. Other than that i don't think you'll have a problem. I can't remember what we did about the prop valve though.
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek_jeremy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what rear trailing arms would work best for a ek?
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99-00 Si

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek_jeremy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and will a prop valve from a 99 si work
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Yup. But we also converted to Si Booster/MC (we did the front brake/suspension conversion as well)

I recommend using all Si for the conversion.

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Old May 5, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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is there a difference between gsr and ls brakes?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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looks like u got it all....but its definatly easier with all si stuff...if you get integ make sure you use the e brake cables from an integ as well

as for the prop valve yeh u need the 40/40 from a 99-00 si

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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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si prop valve is the same part number as every 96-00 civic hatchback........
a lot of missed informed people here........
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know this information is on this site under the FAQ, but unless you have ABS you can't use the MC, or the proportioning valve</TD></TR></TABLE>

You might want to double check on that. Any Si MC/Booster/Prop valve will work.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rathead &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">si prop valve is the same part number as every 96-00 civic hatchback........
a lot of missed informed people here........</TD></TR></TABLE>


prove it
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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rear disc conversions are WAY over rated. Save your money, do something else.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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whats the difference between gsr and ls brakes?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96hatchback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats the difference between gsr and ls brakes?</TD></TR></TABLE>

there are the same....
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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prove it </TD></TR></TABLE>


nevermind, my links suck. i will find the info.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHC hatch ej &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rear disc conversions are WAY over rated. Save your money, do something else.</TD></TR></TABLE>



ek jeremy, gsr mc/booster doesnt' bolt on. either use 99-00 si or 98+ non abs ITR 1". I have the 1" y0
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rathead &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">si prop valve is the same part number as every 96-00 civic hatchback........
a lot of missed informed people here........</TD></TR></TABLE>

believe it or not he's actually right.

99 si coupe: 46210-S04-902
00 si coupe: 46210-S04-902
96 dx hatch: 46210-S04-902
96 cx hatch: 46210-S04-902
00 dx hatch: 46210-S04-902
00 cx hatch: 46210-S04-902

they're different for coupes & sedans though.
96 ex coupe: 46210-S04-962
00 dx sedan: 46210-S04-912


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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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if you check here.....http://www.hondiscountparts.com/
all 99-00 civic hatch and si are the same #
thanks for putting up the part numbers. i think a lot of people waste their time
changing a prop valve on a ek.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

believe it or not he's actually right.

99 si coupe: 46210-S04-902
00 si coupe: 46210-S04-902
96 dx hatch: 46210-S04-902
96 cx hatch: 46210-S04-902
00 dx hatch: 46210-S04-902
00 cx hatch: 46210-S04-902

they're different for coupes & sedans though.
96 ex coupe: 46210-S04-962
00 dx sedan: 46210-S04-912


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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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ok i have a 96 hatch and am planning to put integra brakes on the rear, so i can use my existing trailing arms right or do i need integra ones or si ones?

also is it necessary to do a front conversion as well or is doing the rear okay?
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