anybody running 225's on their itr?
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 12,949
Likes: 8
From: Atlantis
anybody running 225's on their itr?
If so, please post whether 225/50/15 or 225/45/16 or whatever size, offset and size of the wheels, and what the drop is like front and rear.
I'm looking to run 225/50/15's on a 15x7.5 +40's all around, with a pretty dumped suspension.....
Should I break out the bat and roll the fenders like crazy in anticipation or what?
I'm looking to run 225/50/15's on a 15x7.5 +40's all around, with a pretty dumped suspension.....
Should I break out the bat and roll the fenders like crazy in anticipation or what?
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 909
Likes: 0
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
You can if you roll the fenders alot. My friend ran 225's for the racing series here and did some fender rolling to make them work. He was using Tein RS that were slightly lower than stock. He was running 16" volk wheels but I don't know what offset.
AW
My friend ran 225's for the racing series here and did some fender rolling to make them work. He was using Tein RS that were slightly lower than stock. He was running 16" volk wheels but I don't know what offset.AW
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 14,274
Likes: 0
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you cannot do 225 if you are lowered</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not True.
Wai has 225/50/15's in front and his car measures just over 4" from the ground to the front/side jacking point. Slight rub at full lock, but this can be remedied by raising the height slightly. As for 225/45/15, you can get away with being a bit lower since the sidewall of the tire is shorter.
Please don't make blanket statements if you don't know what you're talking about.
Ken - if you are pretty low, you'll rub with 225/50 at full/almost full lock. But if you roll the fenders.... you'll probably be ok.
Not True.
Wai has 225/50/15's in front and his car measures just over 4" from the ground to the front/side jacking point. Slight rub at full lock, but this can be remedied by raising the height slightly. As for 225/45/15, you can get away with being a bit lower since the sidewall of the tire is shorter.
Please don't make blanket statements if you don't know what you're talking about.
Ken - if you are pretty low, you'll rub with 225/50 at full/almost full lock. But if you roll the fenders.... you'll probably be ok.
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Chris N)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not True.
Wai has 225/50/15's in front and his car measures just over 4" from the ground to the front/side jacking point. Slight rub at full lock, but this can be remedied by raising the height slightly. As for 225/45/15, you can get away with being a bit lower since the sidewall of the tire is shorter.
Please don't make blanket statements if you don't know what you're talking about.
Ken - if you are pretty low, you'll rub with 225/50 at full/almost full lock. But if you roll the fenders.... you'll probably be ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my car has 215/45/16 azien with works wheel, and it's lowered only 1 inch with tein, and IT DOESN"T WORK!!
i can't make hard coner any more!!!!!
and that's why i said it can't when the car is lowered, and look at wut did you said, "but this can be remedied by raising the height slightly"
this is the same as you can't do 225 if you are lowered!
Not True.
Wai has 225/50/15's in front and his car measures just over 4" from the ground to the front/side jacking point. Slight rub at full lock, but this can be remedied by raising the height slightly. As for 225/45/15, you can get away with being a bit lower since the sidewall of the tire is shorter.
Please don't make blanket statements if you don't know what you're talking about.
Ken - if you are pretty low, you'll rub with 225/50 at full/almost full lock. But if you roll the fenders.... you'll probably be ok.
</TD></TR></TABLE>my car has 215/45/16 azien with works wheel, and it's lowered only 1 inch with tein, and IT DOESN"T WORK!!
i can't make hard coner any more!!!!!
and that's why i said it can't when the car is lowered, and look at wut did you said, "but this can be remedied by raising the height slightly"
this is the same as you can't do 225 if you are lowered!
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 14,274
Likes: 0
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
You don't make sense.
People do it, it works. Don't make blanket statements to answer people's questions.
Rubbing on the fender liner, so what? Roll them back a bit. Or put some spacers on.
To say it 'doesn't work' implies that you can't even put them on your car. you can drive around and have no problems. i rarely go full lock either way on my steering wheel, and to some people slight rubbing on fender liners isnt a big deal.
People do it, it works. Don't make blanket statements to answer people's questions.
Rubbing on the fender liner, so what? Roll them back a bit. Or put some spacers on.
To say it 'doesn't work' implies that you can't even put them on your car. you can drive around and have no problems. i rarely go full lock either way on my steering wheel, and to some people slight rubbing on fender liners isnt a big deal.
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Chris N)
ok ok you win
in your sense rubbing the fender liner is not a big deal, coz you are rich or you use the car to go to tracks alot
but for me, it's a big deal, coz it costed me like 200 bucks to replaced the broken fender liner. and i will not remove the fender liner, since this is my daily ride. so for people poor like me, it is not possible or not recommend to use 225 tires on their cars if it is lowered.
but for people rich like you, it is acceptable.
now make more sense to you?
in your sense rubbing the fender liner is not a big deal, coz you are rich or you use the car to go to tracks alot
but for me, it's a big deal, coz it costed me like 200 bucks to replaced the broken fender liner. and i will not remove the fender liner, since this is my daily ride. so for people poor like me, it is not possible or not recommend to use 225 tires on their cars if it is lowered.
but for people rich like you, it is acceptable.
now make more sense to you?
Trending Topics
H-T Order of Merit
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 23,478
Likes: 2
From: Chicago
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok ok you win
in your sense rubbing the fender liner is not a big deal, coz you are rich or you use the car to go to tracks alot
but for me, it's a big deal, coz it costed me like 200 bucks to replaced the broken fender liner. and i will not remove the fender liner, since this is my daily ride. so for people poor like me, it is not possible or not recommend to use 225 tires on their cars if it is lowered.
but for people rich like you, it is acceptable.
now make more sense to you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Can we just have a discussion on what is needed, without making wild-*** claims like whether someone is "rich" or not?
If you don't want to remove your fender liner, and if you have to use a narrower width tire to keep the fender liner, that's fine, that's your choice - but it may have nothing to do with anyone's financial circumstances.
Heck, I'm using stock size tires (Arctic Alpin in the winter, RE010 the rest of the year) on the street and 205 on the track. Does that mean that I'm poor? Or does it mean that I like having an accurate odometer and speedometer, and that I don't want any rubbing, and that I don't think I'll get a whole lot of benefit from wider tires? Maybe we can concentrate on the advantages and disadvantages of each setup, without ascribing reasons to someone's background...
in your sense rubbing the fender liner is not a big deal, coz you are rich or you use the car to go to tracks alot
but for me, it's a big deal, coz it costed me like 200 bucks to replaced the broken fender liner. and i will not remove the fender liner, since this is my daily ride. so for people poor like me, it is not possible or not recommend to use 225 tires on their cars if it is lowered.
but for people rich like you, it is acceptable.
now make more sense to you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Can we just have a discussion on what is needed, without making wild-*** claims like whether someone is "rich" or not?
If you don't want to remove your fender liner, and if you have to use a narrower width tire to keep the fender liner, that's fine, that's your choice - but it may have nothing to do with anyone's financial circumstances.
Heck, I'm using stock size tires (Arctic Alpin in the winter, RE010 the rest of the year) on the street and 205 on the track. Does that mean that I'm poor? Or does it mean that I like having an accurate odometer and speedometer, and that I don't want any rubbing, and that I don't think I'll get a whole lot of benefit from wider tires? Maybe we can concentrate on the advantages and disadvantages of each setup, without ascribing reasons to someone's background...
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 14,274
Likes: 0
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Jetydosa)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jetydosa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chris if you are so rich, why havent you paid me for the Rotas?? 
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because i have to pay for expo first
That's the best excuse EVAR!!!
SOL-R - ok, we can agree to disagree.
But it IS possible. Some might not like the solutions (i.e, roll liners, spacers, etc), but its possible. Anyhoo....
KenE - Break out the bat.... you'll need it methinks.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Because i have to pay for expo first
That's the best excuse EVAR!!!
SOL-R - ok, we can agree to disagree.
But it IS possible. Some might not like the solutions (i.e, roll liners, spacers, etc), but its possible. Anyhoo....
KenE - Break out the bat.... you'll need it methinks.
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 6,470
Likes: 0
From: www.js-garage.com
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok ok you win
in your sense rubbing the fender liner is not a big deal, coz you are rich or you use the car to go to tracks alot
but for me, it's a big deal, coz it costed me like 200 bucks to replaced the broken fender liner. and i will not remove the fender liner, since this is my daily ride. so for people poor like me, it is not possible or not recommend to use 225 tires on their cars if it is lowered.
but for people rich like you, it is acceptable.
now make more sense to you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i just put some 215/45/16 on my car, my car is lowered a tad, and when i hit a bump, i will hear i rub.
in your sense rubbing the fender liner is not a big deal, coz you are rich or you use the car to go to tracks alot
but for me, it's a big deal, coz it costed me like 200 bucks to replaced the broken fender liner. and i will not remove the fender liner, since this is my daily ride. so for people poor like me, it is not possible or not recommend to use 225 tires on their cars if it is lowered.
but for people rich like you, it is acceptable.
now make more sense to you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i just put some 215/45/16 on my car, my car is lowered a tad, and when i hit a bump, i will hear i rub.
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,136
Likes: 2
From: kuidaore
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
01 R stock suspension,
225/45/15 Hoosier R3203 and Kumho Ecsta V700's,
7" wide +43 and +45 offsets,
It all fit, worked with minimal rubbing/melting and Nothing to cry about.
Hoosier's are wider and will rub more though.
If you go too low (Ken the Riceboy), a different offset and or spacers will cure the problem hopefully before rolling is required.
And WTF does rich and or comments about tracking your car have to do with it? I'm better off than some but less wealthy than others but, I still hate any damage to my car. Your derogatory track inference is plain stupid and just displays ignorance. I ran those tire combinations at autocross Before I drove on a track. I actually ran 205/50/15 Azenis on stock and 7" wide rims for DE's till this year when I'll again be running the V700 combination.
225/45/15 Hoosier R3203 and Kumho Ecsta V700's,
7" wide +43 and +45 offsets,
It all fit, worked with minimal rubbing/melting and Nothing to cry about.
Hoosier's are wider and will rub more though.
If you go too low (Ken the Riceboy), a different offset and or spacers will cure the problem hopefully before rolling is required.
And WTF does rich and or comments about tracking your car have to do with it? I'm better off than some but less wealthy than others but, I still hate any damage to my car. Your derogatory track inference is plain stupid and just displays ignorance. I ran those tire combinations at autocross Before I drove on a track. I actually ran 205/50/15 Azenis on stock and 7" wide rims for DE's till this year when I'll again be running the V700 combination.
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 12,949
Likes: 8
From: Atlantis
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
IT DOESN"T WORK!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
.....methinks the tire size + offset and size of the wheel has something to do with it.
I don't mind rolling the fenders, but would prefer not to remove the fender liners.
Hell, what am I saying? If I could run 15x10's all around, I'd do it no questions asked. Just tell me how. I am willing to get custom flared front fenders and do some psycho bodywork in the rear to make it work. Who is with me?
Sure, anything's possible given enough $ is thrown at it - but I don't think it'll cost that much to get 225's up under this bizzle.
And thanks Anton! This riceboy will run the 225 hoosiers that rodney gave me.....
IT DOESN"T WORK!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
.....methinks the tire size + offset and size of the wheel has something to do with it.
I don't mind rolling the fenders, but would prefer not to remove the fender liners.
Hell, what am I saying? If I could run 15x10's all around, I'd do it no questions asked. Just tell me how. I am willing to get custom flared front fenders and do some psycho bodywork in the rear to make it work. Who is with me?
Sure, anything's possible given enough $ is thrown at it - but I don't think it'll cost that much to get 225's up under this bizzle.
And thanks Anton! This riceboy will run the 225 hoosiers that rodney gave me.....
H-T Order of Merit
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 23,478
Likes: 2
From: Chicago
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Black R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I could run 15x10's all around, I'd do it no questions asked.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And you could call it... the Low Ride<FONT COLOR="red">R</FONT>!
And you could call it... the Low Ride<FONT COLOR="red">R</FONT>!
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,136
Likes: 2
From: kuidaore
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Black R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And thanks Anton! This riceboy will run the 225 hoosiers that rodney gave me..... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Those worn out flat spotted corded hunks of used up chewing gum?
No wonder he 'Gave" them to you.
OK, we found Another guy that'll take 2nd and 3rd hand rubber now. Actually dropped off his my (actually his first then mine) wasted V700's to another buddy of mine who wants to run them on his Mustang for Autocross this season for some unGodly reason.
Yeah the Hoosiers will rub on stock suspension but, you'd laugh if I took pics and actually showed you the almost non existant damage.
I say break out the sledge hammer
And thanks Anton! This riceboy will run the 225 hoosiers that rodney gave me.....
</TD></TR></TABLE>Those worn out flat spotted corded hunks of used up chewing gum?
No wonder he 'Gave" them to you.
OK, we found Another guy that'll take 2nd and 3rd hand rubber now. Actually dropped off his my (actually his first then mine) wasted V700's to another buddy of mine who wants to run them on his Mustang for Autocross this season for some unGodly reason.
Yeah the Hoosiers will rub on stock suspension but, you'd laugh if I took pics and actually showed you the almost non existant damage.
I say break out the sledge hammer
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,136
Likes: 2
From: kuidaore
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And you could call it... the Low Ride<FONT COLOR="red">R</FONT>!
</TD></TR></TABLE>
And then he'd need fender flares to run it in Street Mod.
And you could call it... the Low Ride<FONT COLOR="red">R</FONT>!
</TD></TR></TABLE>
And then he'd need fender flares to run it in Street Mod.
ProFunction/GT Motoring
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,930
Likes: 0
From: IL
Didn't have time to go thru all the posts yet. But yes, it CAN be done without rubbing anything.
225/50-15 on 15x7 (+45) Kosei K1. With 10mm spacer, making the effective offset to be 35mm.
Rub or not also depends on the spring rates, camber and ride height.
225/50-15 on 15x7 (+45) Kosei K1. With 10mm spacer, making the effective offset to be 35mm.
Rub or not also depends on the spring rates, camber and ride height.
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 14,274
Likes: 0
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
but for people rich like you, it is acceptable.
now make more sense to you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
How do you know if I am 'rich' or not? What does it matter?
I budget money so I can go to the track and buy the things I want - does that make sense to you? Rich? LOL. please.
I love the underhanded comments that are supposed to... what, bother me/other people?
When all else fails, attack the other person in a discussion/disagreement. Ask ken how that works.
but for people rich like you, it is acceptable.
now make more sense to you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
How do you know if I am 'rich' or not? What does it matter?
I budget money so I can go to the track and buy the things I want - does that make sense to you? Rich? LOL. please.
I love the underhanded comments that are supposed to... what, bother me/other people?
When all else fails, attack the other person in a discussion/disagreement. Ask ken how that works.
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 12,949
Likes: 8
From: Atlantis
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Chris N)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When all else fails, attack the other person in a discussion/disagreement. Ask ken how that works.</TD></TR></TABLE>
.....aww man, why do you guys have to bring ME into your argument?
.....aww man, why do you guys have to bring ME into your argument?
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Black R)
from my OWN past experience, it couldn't work out, and i spent 200 buckz to replace the fender liner. that's what i was talking about
i said it can't be if you lowered without doing any mods, and you agrued that it can be
so i let you win
and you are still not happy ? cmon let's end it here
sometimes i am very confusing about this place, some people are real nice, but some others are real mean (especially in type R forum) and luv to agrue all the time...
Modified by SOL-R at 3:32 AM 2/12/2004
i said it can't be if you lowered without doing any mods, and you agrued that it can be
so i let you win
and you are still not happy ? cmon let's end it here
sometimes i am very confusing about this place, some people are real nice, but some others are real mean (especially in type R forum) and luv to agrue all the time...
Modified by SOL-R at 3:32 AM 2/12/2004
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,136
Likes: 2
From: kuidaore
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (SOL-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i said it can't be if you lowered without doing any mods, and you agrued that it can be
</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, this is what you said:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you cannot do 225 if you are lowered</TD></TR></TABLE>
No if's, and's or but's, you said it couldn't be done AT ALL! Not with body mods or spacers or different wheel offset, you plainly said it just could Not be done. And here is where we started to have a problem.
It's not an argument. You are incorrect, and correcting you is what we did.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i let you win
</TD></TR></TABLE>
How tremendously gracious of you.
Modified by 1GreyTeg at 9:28 PM 2/11/2004
</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, this is what you said:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you cannot do 225 if you are lowered</TD></TR></TABLE>
No if's, and's or but's, you said it couldn't be done AT ALL! Not with body mods or spacers or different wheel offset, you plainly said it just could Not be done. And here is where we started to have a problem.
It's not an argument. You are incorrect, and correcting you is what we did.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOL-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i let you win
</TD></TR></TABLE>
How tremendously gracious of you.
Modified by 1GreyTeg at 9:28 PM 2/11/2004
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 10,399
Likes: 3
From: Chicagoland, IL
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr?
From the dead.....
Anyone planning to move to the new 225/45R15 Toyos for HPDE? Should I move to Toyo 225/45R15 on my ITR? I have a set of 15x7 +45 wheels now with nothing to put on them.
Do I need spacers? Wai was running +35 for a 225/50...
I don't care about full-lock obviously, just track conditions.
Solo2 stock peeps would run 225 tires with 45mm offset, but that may have been just a factor of the rules, and I'm not sure how much rubbing they have. Plus, I'm l lowered an inch.
-Chris
Anyone planning to move to the new 225/45R15 Toyos for HPDE? Should I move to Toyo 225/45R15 on my ITR? I have a set of 15x7 +45 wheels now with nothing to put on them.
Do I need spacers? Wai was running +35 for a 225/50...
I don't care about full-lock obviously, just track conditions. Solo2 stock peeps would run 225 tires with 45mm offset, but that may have been just a factor of the rules, and I'm not sure how much rubbing they have. Plus, I'm l lowered an inch.
-Chris
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 18,261
Likes: 0
From: USA
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Chris F)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From the dead.....
Anyone planning to move to the new 225/45R15 Toyos for HPDE? Should I move to Toyo 225/45R15 on my ITR? I have a set of 15x7 +45 wheels now with nothing to put on them. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I plan on that exact setup for Expo... But on my stock suspension R
I'll let you know at expo how it works
Anyone planning to move to the new 225/45R15 Toyos for HPDE? Should I move to Toyo 225/45R15 on my ITR? I have a set of 15x7 +45 wheels now with nothing to put on them. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I plan on that exact setup for Expo... But on my stock suspension R
I'll let you know at expo how it works
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,929
Likes: 2
From: Kelowna Canada
Re: anybody running 225's on their itr? (Black R)
225/40-16 with +50mm offset rim fit perfectly on a lowered car.
I have been using this setup for 4 years.
Never any rubbing even at full lock.
I have been using this setup for 4 years.
Never any rubbing even at full lock.