Do you think I could make 200whp (B18c1) on this setup:

Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
Piston: Crower
Connecting Rod: Crower
Crankshaft: Crower
Throttlebody: JDM ITR
Camshaft: Crower
Cam Gear: Crower
Head Studs: ARP
Sparkplug Wire: NGK
Sparkplug: NGK Iridium 7
Valvespring: Crower
Retainer: Crower
Crank Pulley: Unorthodox
Injectors: RC 310cc
ECU Tuning: Hondata Stage 2
Intake: AEM CAI w/ bypass
Header: Hytech
Catalytic Converter: PowerCore
Exhaust B-Pipe: Type One Racing
Exhaust Muffler: Type One Racing
Oil Catch Can: Cusco

The stuff that says "Crower" is part of the 2.0L stoker kit. Tell me what you think. If you have a suggestion just let me know.


Modified by BlueDC2 at 8:37 PM 2/7/2004


Modified by BlueDC2 at 8:39 PM 2/7/2004

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=746126

 

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Exactly!

 

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He's asking u to help him guess it for a build, not a current setup. What's wrong with asking this?


BlueDC2 yes, but I made some changes to the list. U should make around 220whp easy with good tuning. Also, get a skunk2 intake manifold.

Do you think I could make 200whp (B18c1) on this setup:
Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
Piston: Crower
Connecting Rod: Crower
Crankshaft: Crower
Throttlebody: JDM ITR (I would go with a 68mm tb like from RPM)
Camshaft: Crower (I would go with skunk2 stage 2 or 3 or JUN 3's)
Cam Gear: Crower
Head Studs: ARP
Sparkplug Wire: NGK
Sparkplug: NGK Copper BKR7E (Change)
Valvespring: Crower (go with rocket valvetrain)
Retainer: Crower (go with rocket valvetrain)
Crank Pulley: Unorthodox (stick with stock)
Injectors: RC 370cc - 440cc (Change)
ECU Tuning: Hondata S200 (change)
Intake: AEM CAI w/ bypass
Header: Hytech
Catalytic Converter: PowerCore
Exhaust B-Pipe: Type One Racing
Exhaust Muffler: Type One Racing
Oil Catch Can: Cusco

The stuff that says "Crower" is part of the 2.0L stoker kit. Tell me what you think. If you have a suggestion just let me know.

 

any particular reason youre stroking it instead of sleeving? you limit the revability of the motor a bit when stroking, not to mention wearing the sleeves out quicker

 

So do you think I should sleeve it instead of stroking it? And what about the Ferrera valvetrain I heard that was really good for a all-motor car?

 

What about a 70mm TB on a skunk2 manifold?

 

id definitly sleeve before stroking.

gsr crank or ls crank and 85mm
12.5:1
valvetrain id go with rocket motorsports, RLZ, or toda
if you go by your avatar and street race, get toda spec C cams
b16/itr head: itr intake manifold
gsr head: skunk2 manifold
68 or 70mm tb
hondata

 

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Well, the opening on the skunk2 manifold is only 64mm, so 70 mm TB will not do you any good, unless you have it tapered to 64mm, or get the Skunk2 manifold extrude honed. If you use a b16/ITR head I would get a AEBS intake manifold. There have been multiple independant dyno charts here on H-T showing it make good power over the ITR.

I would not run Crower cams.

You will need Hondata.

Also, if you are going to get a crank pulley, I would get a DH-Racing over the UR any day.

IMO this thread should be deleted, because it is basically a what kind of numbers thread. There is enough documentation on this site/the web to easily figure out how to make 200 whp.

 

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Well, the opening on the skunk2 manifold is only 64mm, so 70 mm TB will not do you any good, unless you have it tapered to 64mm, or get the Skunk2 manifold extrude honed. If you use a b16/ITR head I would get a AEBS intake manifold. There have been multiple independant dyno charts here on H-T showing it make good power over the ITR.
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you dont have to extrude hone, all you have to do is bore out where the throttle body mates up to the IM

 

True

 

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Resleeve to 85mm: RS Machines
Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
Piston: (Wiesco's 85mm)
Connecting Rod: (IB I beams)
Crankshaft: (LS crank/89mm Balanced/micropolish by RS Machines)
Throttlebody: JDM ITR
Camshaft: (Jun3's)
Cam Gear: (Skunk2's/JG)
Head Studs: (AEBS)
Sparkplug Wire: NGK
Sparkplug: (Rocket Autolites)
Valvespring: (Rocket)
Retainer: (Rocket)
Crank Pulley: Unorthodox
Injectors: RC 310cc
ECU Tuning: (Hondata s200 or AEM EMS)
Intake Manifold: (Skunk2)
Intake: AEM CAI w/ bypass (Any filter on a stick will do)
Header: Hytech (great choice)
Catalytic Converter: PowerCore (no need)
Exhaust B-Pipe: Type One Racing
Exhaust Muffler: Type One Racing
Oil Catch Can: Cusco (I have one for sale, not cucso, it has a cap so you can baffle it.)

The stuff that says "Crower" is part of the 2.0L stoker kit. Tell me what you think. If you have a suggestion just let me know.
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Instead of the stroker package just get your block resleeved and run a crank that can rev higher more safely than the 92mm.

That setup w/ good tuning should be well over 220.

 

Why a LS crank?

 

LS is 89mm and perfect for high revving b-series, has a nice torque curve and a "tolerable" r/s.

It has a longer stroke then a gsr crank, but a shorter stroke than the crowers crank.

I'm not familar w/ the crower "2.0L" package.. but i'm sure the crank is 92-95mm, which would have a horrid r/s ratio w/ stock deck height.