Just wondering about the 5 way adjs. Mugen lowdown, if anyone has them and what they think of it. Do they make noise and do they rust faster compare to stock?
Thanks, for your feed back.

 

It's a very nice product for the money. IMHO the ride quality is a little better than stock and they offer excellent on track performance. I never had any problems with rust - they are well coated.

 

I've had them on my Type R for about a year. The damper adjustment on top of the shock allows for easy adjustment for street or track without having to get under the car. The height is not adjustable, but that is fine with me, the lowdowns drop your car about 3/4". I would buy the lowdowns again in a heartbeat.

 

I currently had the Lowdowns for 4 months. they are much nicer than my H&R race+tokico setup. at the softest setting, it's almost like a stock feel with an edge. it only drops 3/4 inch so you don't have to worry about speed bumps and huge potholes distroying your lip or under carage.

I run it with the mugen 26mm rear sway, 2f/3r (5way adj.) and love it. like the previous person said, I would buy them again in a heartbeat. no rust issues or noise for now. hope this helps.

 

Josh from itrsport.com had a set on his ride. Check out his site under investments and read his review. From what I remember he hated them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RGoose18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Josh from itrsport.com had a set on his ride. Check out his site under investments and read his review. From what I remember he hated them. </TD></TR></TABLE> he didnt really hate it he just didn't like it when he drove through the midwest sucky roads.. i can say i feel the same way but you just have to mess around with the settnigs.. he had it at a setting that was a little bouncy.. best for street setting is 2 front 3 rear and 1front and 2 for rear for track..but i love my set.. can't wait to see them with spooners

 

For street driving I prefer the stock suspension compared to Lowdowns. I purchased them used so who knows, they could have been dammaged/abused. If you have poor roads in your city I suggest staying with the stock setup.

 

Hi gus, I also just recently bought a set of Mugen lowdowns.
I currently has the setting as 3 for Front, and 2 for rear and it feels fine... does anyone know what is the recommended setting for road use?

Thanks!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kicker773 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> he didnt really hate it he just didn't like it when he drove through the midwest sucky roads.. i can say i feel the same way but you just have to mess around with the settnigs.. he had it at a setting that was a little bouncy.. best for street setting is 2 front 3 rear and 1front and 2 for rear for track..but i love my set.. can't wait to see them with spooners </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why on earth would you set them stiffer for street driving than you would for the track?!
I keep mine set at 1 all the way around most of the time for street driving, usually 3 front/5 rear on track. Sometimes I forget to soften them up after a track event and drive on the street with the 3f/5r set-up, it's not that bad.

I would take Josh's opinion of them with a grain of salt, as he has no track experience with them whatsoever. His initial opinion of them was when he had them set at full stiff all the way around and didn't realize it He also has never driven with them on a track


Modified by Mugen Mike at 9:50 AM 2/9/2004

 

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I currently has the setting as 3 for Front, and 2 for rear and it feels fine...
Thanks!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I personally would set the rear stiffer than the front. setting your front dampers stiffer will create more understeer. if that's what you like then to you, but most love oversteer, including me.

the mugen lowdowns aready have stiffer spring rates up front, though I forget the rates from the top of my head. I would reverse those numbers, do 2f/3r or if you find that setting too hardcore, 1f/2r.

 

I like mine. I just put them at 1 all around for street use and they feel and ride great. The ride height is also perfect. Lower than stock, but still heigh enough I don't have to worry about speed bumps and what not.

 

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I hope people realize that I did not suggest this configuration.

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Thanks Mike
What are you talking about? I never commented on their functionality at the track.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itrsport.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks Mike
What are you talking about? I never commented on their functionality at the track.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No disrespect meant by my comments, Josh -- I just disagree with your review. IMO, they are just fine on the street, and they work very well for autocross & moderate track use. I have also never had any problems with my CD's skipping, or anything like that (except that time I drove over a dead deer in the interstate ), which I remember was one of your dislikes about the suspension.

 

Does BlueR still have that used set for sale?
I'm @ 71K miles on the stock suspension and am looking for a bit of an upgrade.

P.S. I just IM'd him. Ed

 

It's hard to gauge a suspension's performance if you only use it on the street.

This is in no way a slam on those that only street drive their car, it's a fact that can't really be overlooked. But... it's really subjective as to whether or not you'll like any upgraded suspension around town. Like Josh said, he doesn't like them, while Mike does....

Paul - Why do you have your settings LOWER for the track (than on the street), and what track are you talking about? That seems rather counterintuitive. Higher dampening rates for the track... lower for the street for more 'forgiveness' over the crappy roads.

I personally think they are a nice ride if set up correctly (i.e., low settings)... but in no way are they comparable to a coilover that is supporting MUCH higher rates. Mike's car feels nice around town, but over big bumps and on crappy roads, ANY suspension feels like crap including stock, IMO.

I'm sure they do just fine on the track, however they are a nice compromise between all out track coilover with high rates and the stock suspension. Good at everything, not great at one thing and only marginally acceptable at the other (in reference to high spring rate/high dampening coilovers and stock suspension).

 

i've done searches on the correct settings for them and that was recommended.. i guess i had mine at the wrong settngs oops..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does BlueR still have that used set for sale?
I'm @ 71K miles on the stock suspension and am looking for a bit of an upgrade.

P.S. I just IM'd him. Ed</TD></TR></TABLE>

He sold 'em awhile back.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's hard to gauge a suspension's performance if you only use it on the street.

This is in no way a slam on those that only street drive their car, it's a fact that can't really be overlooked. But... it's really subjective as to whether or not you'll like any upgraded suspension around town. Like Josh said, he doesn't like them, while Mike does....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, My skunk2/kyb suspension IMO sucks *** on the street/daily driving. But I loved the set-up on the track... Everybody that rode with me on the track in my car even asked what I had, and was amazed.
And that was even with the 2 rear shocks getting ready to blow(lol)...

IMHO, any spring rate thats harder than stock is not going to have much of a stock ride feeling. If it does, you're probably going to either have a shitty ride on street, but decent ride on track. Or a shitty ride on track, but decent ride on street.

But hey, what do I know. Im only down for show kaa's anyway. Taking a car on a track(drag or circuit)is just plain stoopid to me.... Cars are made and should be built to see car shows and meets only....

 

I'm happy with my "track" setup for street driving. IMHO, it's pretty damned cushy.

 

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No offense, but this is the type of stuff that's no good... i thought you were speaking from experience.

You always have higher dampening rates for the track copmpared to the street... unless you like to shake yourself to death around town

And you can get good ride quality around town, but never as soft/good as stock.

Strong dampers = not so much bounce from springs. But being way over dampened is no good either....

 

owkee dowkee.. i'll re-set mine later darn..hmm.. hope i can test it at exblo

 

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I'm sure they do just fine on the track, however they are a nice compromise between all out track coilover with high rates and the stock suspension. Good at everything, not great at one thing and only marginally acceptable at the other (in reference to high spring rate/high dampening coilovers and stock suspension).</TD></TR></TABLE>

very well said.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And you can get good ride quality around town, but never as soft/good as stock.

Strong dampers = not so much bounce from springs. But being way over dampened is no good either....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not necessarily true. A friend of mine who's used to the cushy ride of Audis and his Passat was really impressed with the Buddy Club setup I'd had on my turbo. I'm beginning a lor of it has to do with the diameter of the puston and it's ability to displace sufficient fluid for small suspension movements. I was also running 12KF and 14K R (660 lb. F/ 770 lb. R) springs at the time with the dampers set at 5/15 f and 8/15 r. Just my 2 cents. Ed

 

True Ed... another variable I didn't mention.

 

anyone know the spring rates of the Mugen Lowdowns?