OH NO wrong MTF !!
i did some reasearch on Redline mtf and decided to go with it. but i think i might have put the wrong stuff in my teg i used Red Line MT-90 Manual Transmission Lubricant ... its the heavier weight do you guys think it will be fine or should i change it imediatly ?
aight, cool. it felt really good after i changed it but i was just searching and i read a thread were it said the MT-90 tears up integra trannys because its to heavy a weight.
what?! MTF-90 as in 90 weight oil? that's way too heavy... the actual tranny fluid is more like 10w30 motor oil than 90 weight!
i say change it! besides, it's not that hard to do, and not that expensive. better than a new tranny.
i say change it! besides, it's not that hard to do, and not that expensive. better than a new tranny.
damn damn damn ... this is the product i got for further clarification http://marketplace.s2ki.com/s2...age=1
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They measure the viscosity differently, so 90w doesnt mean its necessarily thicker than 10w40 motor oil. This quote from your own link supports that:
"MT-90 is a 75W90 GL-4 and also satisfies motor oil viscosities SAE 10W/15W/40."
So don't worry about it, you will be just fine, you can leave it in.
"MT-90 is a 75W90 GL-4 and also satisfies motor oil viscosities SAE 10W/15W/40."
So don't worry about it, you will be just fine, you can leave it in.
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i use the redline MTL.........works great....but now i'm rethinking it since its been a while now.........i'm probably gona run the GM synchromesh stuff or whatever its called
I just changed my MTF with Genuine honda manual tranny fluid and it worked out GREAT! There was some noise coming out of my tranny, now that i replaced the oil. The noise is gone. I wouldnt recommened anything eles besides honda MTF because honda trannies are designed to operate with Honda MTF, and i wouldnt risk the longevity of the tranny with a different type of product. Sure i've heard lots of good stuff about GM syncromesh, but its made by GM? Its a completely different breed of cars, let alone a transmission. Just some of my thoughts. Peace!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1998_4dr_gsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sure i've heard lots of good stuff about GM syncromesh, but its made by GM? Its a completely different breed of cars, let alone a transmission. Just some of my thoughts. Peace!</TD></TR></TABLE>
But every once in a while, things that weren't designed to work together get put together anyways, and make for a combination that works wonderfully. Think LS/VTEC.
But every once in a while, things that weren't designed to work together get put together anyways, and make for a combination that works wonderfully. Think LS/VTEC.
LS/VTEC can be done because they are made by the same company. But even with that invention many LS/VTEC conversions lose SOME of the reliability that honda has been known for. I've heard lots of LS/VTEC conversions that caused many nightmares, and if your not a experieced most likely your going to have many problems with the hybrid down the road. Another thing is GM syncromesh is made by GM, (a domestic brand). And your comparing that with the ls/vtec conversion, to me that's not proper analogy.
But using your logic, it would be ok to try and mix engine components from propane powered Nissan forklifts with those from a Skyline GTR because they're made by the same company. A properly built LS/VTEC will be plenty reliable, and it is a proper analogy to the Manual transmission fluid debate.
Honda manufactures it's MTF for use new transmissions that are expected to see "regular" driving. GM manufactures it's Synchromesh Friction Modified for transmissions that will be seeing heavy work loads. By mere coincidence do they happen to have similar fluid properties and are thus interchangable with each other. What makes you more comfortable, a product designed to deal with average road conditions, or a product designed to deal with extremely damaging conditions that just happens to retain the properties for dealing with light duty conditions as well.
Honda manufactures it's MTF for use new transmissions that are expected to see "regular" driving. GM manufactures it's Synchromesh Friction Modified for transmissions that will be seeing heavy work loads. By mere coincidence do they happen to have similar fluid properties and are thus interchangable with each other. What makes you more comfortable, a product designed to deal with average road conditions, or a product designed to deal with extremely damaging conditions that just happens to retain the properties for dealing with light duty conditions as well.
Actually, Pennzoil makes Syncromesh (and sells it for cheaper) as well, if not for, GM. Also, to straighten out any controversy, GM Syncromesh Friction Modified is supposed to help out with chatter in LSD setups. The FM is actually too slick in some applications with syncros. Some people on Bobistheoilguy.com seem to think that using the FM in a non-LSD equipped car is actually bad for the syncros.
That being said, using GM Syncromesh (non-FM) or Honda MTF in a non-LSD car is just fine. If you wanted to argue that American brands shouldn't be used in your Honda, then why would honda have Fram make the new OEM filters, which happen to be made in Canada...
That being said, using GM Syncromesh (non-FM) or Honda MTF in a non-LSD car is just fine. If you wanted to argue that American brands shouldn't be used in your Honda, then why would honda have Fram make the new OEM filters, which happen to be made in Canada...
You can use fram filters in your cars or whatever but in the acura owners manuel, it SPECIFICALLY mentions ONLY USE HONDA MANUEL TRANSMISSION FLUID, with that said, i would'nt jeopardize the knowledge of honda engineers.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They measure the viscosity differently, so 90w doesnt mean its necessarily thicker than 10w40 motor oil. This quote from your own link supports that:
"MT-90 is a 75W90 GL-4 and also satisfies motor oil viscosities SAE 10W/15W/40."
So don't worry about it, you will be just fine, you can leave it in.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya saw that too... i guess it's ok then
still personally i always use the honda original fluid in my tranny. honda says "if using their products (fluids) doesn't solve a problem (such as poorly shifting tranny), then you'll need repairs/rebuild, the damage is already done" (i'm paraphrasing).
"MT-90 is a 75W90 GL-4 and also satisfies motor oil viscosities SAE 10W/15W/40."
So don't worry about it, you will be just fine, you can leave it in.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya saw that too... i guess it's ok then
still personally i always use the honda original fluid in my tranny. honda says "if using their products (fluids) doesn't solve a problem (such as poorly shifting tranny), then you'll need repairs/rebuild, the damage is already done" (i'm paraphrasing).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1998_4dr_gsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can use fram filters in your cars or whatever but in the acura owners manuel, it SPECIFICALLY mentions ONLY USE HONDA MANUEL TRANSMISSION FLUID, with that said, i would'nt jeopardize the knowledge of honda engineers. </TD></TR></TABLE>
when i had my integra, i used GM synchromesh in my tranny....it was like butter.
when i had my integra, i used GM synchromesh in my tranny....it was like butter.
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