how is the ride with aftermarket stuff compared to stock?

reference: Ground Control coilovers and Koni shocks

will i be able to adjust the shocks from firm to soft, soft being the closet to factory stiffness?

Thanks
Dave '00 base

 

The ride isnt too bad at all.

But if you want a nice ride buy a caddy. The prelude is a sports car

 

after market coil-overs/shocks will never give the same comfort as stock shocks/springs.

it'll be close though, i'm riding on tein ss and it's pretty smooth.

also, the ride quality depends on your spring rate and rim/tire size.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The prelude is a sports car</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats kinda pushing it..

 

With my JIC Coilover my car rides like ***.. I had sparcos and you can feel everything, then I put in a set of recaros and its bit better but It feels better.. I went ahead and set it to soft settings and so far so good.

 

Personally I don't really like coilovers like the ground control, skunk, and etc. Those aren't even true coilovers. To me it doesn't make sense when the coilover spring is half the size of a normal springs. One is 1 ft long while the other is only like 6-8 in. If your gonna spend the money on some koni's, might as well spend and extra 100-150 to buy a true coilover kit.

 

Thats Why I went with Jics over GC and others.. Also Jics finish are better than Tiens.. So far so good.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludeboy555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Personally I don't really like coilovers like the ground control, skunk, and etc. Those aren't even true coilovers. To me it doesn't make sense when the coilover spring is half the size of a normal springs. One is 1 ft long while the other is only like 6-8 in. If your gonna spend the money on some koni's, might as well spend and extra 100-150 to buy a true coilover kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i always thought that the springs were more compressed to give it a stiffer ride and so that you could drop it....

also coilovers work fine for most applications.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludeboy555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Personally I don't really like coilovers like the ground control, skunk, and etc. Those aren't even true coilovers. To me it doesn't make sense when the coilover spring is half the size of a normal springs. One is 1 ft long while the other is only like 6-8 in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

From this, I can tell you that you won't be able to find any coilover kits (whether they're the sleeves like GC's or the "true" coilovers like TEINs) with springs that are as long as the stock ones.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your gonna spend the money on some koni's, might as well spend and extra 100-150 to buy a true coilover kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not all "true" coilover kits cost about $100-150 more than a set of Koni. The cheapest "true" coilover kit on the market now is TEIN Basic, but these are POS, IMO.

 

he's right, the length of the spring really doesn't matter, it's spring rate that counts. I'd like to see you run a stock length spring with a 800 spring rate!!! True coul overs are the best in that they are matched precisely to the springs, and can be adjusted many ways, ie spring rate, and dampening rate. Koni's and GC's are pretty good for the money, and the pearches will allow you to run different springs in the future.

 

what about Tokico gas shocks or any other gas shocks? will the ride be better w/these instead of Konis?

Thanks
Dave '00 base

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22dave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how is the ride with aftermarket stuff compared to stock?

reference: Ground Control coilovers and Koni shocks

will i be able to adjust the shocks from firm to soft, soft being the closet to factory stiffness?

Thanks
Dave '00 base</TD></TR></TABLE>

its good the stiffer the better

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22dave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how is the ride with aftermarket stuff compared to stock?

reference: Ground Control coilovers and Koni shocks

will i be able to adjust the shocks from firm to soft, soft being the closet to factory stiffness?

Thanks
Dave '00 base</TD></TR></TABLE>

Something else to think about is ride height. Being too low or slammed takes away from suspension travel...Not having enough suspension travel will not only hurt ride quality but will also take away from handling.

 

i agree, i dont want the car to be slammed but i also dont want it to be stock either. i want a lower look with the stock or close to stock ride quality.

Dave

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The prelude is a sports car</TD></TR></TABLE>

what wre you smoking when you thought of that ??

 

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what wre you smoking when you thought of that ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

My insurance company calls it a sports car

 

It might not be a sports car, but I tell you one thing insureance sure charges like it's a sports car.

 

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**** yeah they do...its considered a sports car!!

 

I have Tein SS on my car, and I have no complaints. When I want a stiff ride, i just turn 'em up, and for smoothness turn them down, and when they're down, i swear it rides smoother than my mom's cutlass........
Pay $200 more, and get a true coilover setup, don't buy those wanna-be sleeves they try to call coilovers. The sleeves can bend, split, or break on you anyway............
Mike

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by connvict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have Tein SS on my car, and I have no complaints. When I want a stiff ride, i just turn 'em up, and for smoothness turn them down, and when they're down, i swear it rides smoother than my mom's cutlass........
Pay $200 more, and get a true coilover setup, don't buy those wanna-be sleeves they try to call coilovers. The sleeves can bend, split, or break on you anyway............
Mike </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, right.

ground controls and koni's is one of the most trusted suspension setups out there. ever seen a race car on tein SS's?

ever seen a race car on GC+Koni's (revalved and shortened)?

 

I have GC/Koni's set on medium with a 1.75" drop. With 40 series Yokos and 40 psi on the front, the ride is firm around town. The car will rock your world on bad roads at low speed. The car is set up for medium to high speed runs. I'm just too lazy to adjust the tire pressure and shocks for cruising around town.

 

umm i think the reason most racers use koni/GC is because there arent too many race classes that allow threaded shock bodies. if they did, i think you would see a lot more people running revalved Teins and such. As it is, there are a few HC racers on here that use assemblies from JIC and Buddy Club....they just grind off the threads to make them legal.

 

my car has GC-coils/EIBACH-springs kyb agx shocks and i have it set to stiff so i feel everything as a racecar would to some ppl dont like it but i love it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">umm i think the reason most racers use koni/GC is because there arent too many race classes that allow threaded shock bodies. if they did, i think you would see a lot more people running revalved Teins and such. As it is, there are a few HC racers on here that use assemblies from JIC and Buddy Club....they just grind off the threads to make them legal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the JIC/BC setups are competent, as are some of the Tein Setups, but given the opportunity to use a GC/Koni suspension or Tein FLEX/SS/HA's on a IT/HC car alot of people would elect for the konis based on build materials and support.

i believe it was CRXlee who made the most eloquent statement regarding the virtues of the GC/Koni setup.

 

all im sayin here bro is that I AM SATISFIED. And I have seen sleeves broken and bent. I'm not dissing strut/spring setup, but if you have the money, in my opinion, why not go with full coilovers??
My buddy on the other hand hates coilovers, he doesn't like them b/c they tear up your car (according to him) which i could see happening.
If i hadn't gotten such a good deal on my TEIns, i woulda went with KYB AGX's and H&R springs................