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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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Default tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16?

Kumho Ecsta v700 $148


Bfg geforce T/A kd $159


Kumho Ecsta MX $104


Pontenza S03 $153


Im leaning toward bfg geforce T/A or the S03.

Reason being, I believe strongly the bfg can hold most of what i throw at it. and the side walls are to stiff or to soft.

S03s being higher ratings, cheaper, longer life.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

I am going with the V700's. I hear really good things about these tires and I heard they will last awhile too. I thought about the BFG's but they don't last long at all and are more expensive to replace if you have to do it every 5000 miles.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

Those sizes are large - you will need <40mm offset to clear those

225/40 or 215/45 is the correct aspect ratio for 16"
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

the v700's are race/track/autox tires.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Big Phat R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those sizes are large - you will need &lt;40mm offset to clear those

225/40 or 215/45 is the correct aspect ratio for 16"</TD></TR></TABLE>

my wheels are 45mm offset
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

ot - would switching from a large size to a smaller wheel/tire or vice versa change the car's alignment?
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Mindtrap)

your looking at the wrong size tires,

205 45 16 or 215 45 16 or 225 40 16
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (AamirCWITR)

225/45/16 PZero Assimetricos are also an option and cheaper than all of the above. Amazing tires.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (AamirCWITR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AamirCWITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your looking at the wrong size tires,

205 45 16 or 215 45 16 or 225 40 16</TD></TR></TABLE>

how am i looking at the wrong tires..

those tires i posted, come in the following size 225/50/16
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

how am i looking at the wrong tires..

those tires i posted, come in the following size 225/50/16</TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong tire size for your wheels... if you have 16's with +45 offset

you should get 215/45/16
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

how am i looking at the wrong tires..

those tires i posted, come in the following size 225/50/16</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jordo - the tires you a looking at are too big -

Use this : http://miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

<u>Stock tire size</u> = 195/55-15

Diameter is 595.5 mm Circumference = 1870.8 mm 535 revs/km

<u>Your new size</u> = 225/50-16

Diameter is 631.4 mm Circumference = 1983.6 mm 504 revs/km


Not only are they TOO WIDE and heavy. They are too tall and will give you a 6% speedometer error. They will also hurt acceleration.

215/45-16

Diameter is 599.9 mm Circumference = 1884.6 mm 531 revs/km
which is only a 0.7% difference

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Big Phat R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Jordo - the tires you a looking at are too big -

Use this : http://miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

<u>Stock tire size</u> = 195/55-15

Diameter is 595.5 mm Circumference = 1870.8 mm 535 revs/km

<u>Your new size</u> = 225/50-16

Diameter is 631.4 mm Circumference = 1983.6 mm 504 revs/km


Not only are they TOO WIDE and heavy. They are too tall and will give you a 6% speedometer error. They will also hurt acceleration.

215/45-16

Diameter is 599.9 mm Circumference = 1884.6 mm 531 revs/km
which is only a 0.7% difference

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i dont thikn 215s are gonna hold 350whp+
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

Jordo-

The shape of the contact patches will not be signficantly different between a 215 section width tire and a 225 section width tire.

The SIZE of the contact patch is determined by the weight of the car - not the size of the tire. This has been discussed on numerous occasions and George Knighton would be happy to re-discuss this topic with you.

If you seek better traction - more gains are to be had from selecting the right tire compound, a better LSD and traction bars if necessary.

Channelling 350 whp through the front tires of a FWD car is going to be a mechanical challenge anyway. Torque steer is going to be a major problem - along with getting all that power to the ground in an effective manner.

Bigger wider tires are only going to worsen torque steer.

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Big Phat R)

good info for future tire purchase
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Big Phat R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jordo-

The shape of the contact patches will not be signficantly different between a 215 section width tire and a 225 section width tire.

The SIZE of the contact patch is determined by the weight of the car - not the size of the tire. This has been discussed on numerous occasions and George Knighton would be happy to re-discuss this topic with you.

If you seek better traction - more gains are to be had from selecting the right tire compound, a better LSD and traction bars if necessary.

Channelling 350 whp through the front tires of a FWD car is going to be a mechanical challenge anyway. Torque steer is going to be a major problem - along with getting all that power to the ground in an effective manner.

Bigger wider tires are only going to worsen torque steer.

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Oh really, this information is totally foreign to me. Im thought wider is better.

I cant find any tires in 215/45/16
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Oh really, this information is totally foreign to me. Im thought wider is better.

I cant find any tires in 215/45/16</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.falkentire.com/tires/az_rs_sizes.htm
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (buji)

only azenis are the tires that come in that size..

allt he other one are 225/50/16
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (Jordo)

I'm pretty sure RE010s come in that size too.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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Default Re: tires for 225/50/16 or should i go 225/45/16? (buji)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by buji &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm pretty sure RE010s come in that size too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes they do, and you can also get Michelin Pilot Sport in 215/45/16 but they are $$$$$$$
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 01:27 AM
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Tires get wider to compensate for softer compounds. The only thing width does is dissipate heat better for soft compound tires.
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