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i have owned two R's in the past, now i think i want another. my fiance` has an rsx base 5 spd. i have driven both cars back to back and the rsx is a very solid car. i have driven a type s but not lived with one on a daily basis.

my question is

who has had a type r and now owns a type s

what are your impressions?

if honda brought over a dc5 R there would be no question.

i know that i never used my R's to their fullest potential but, they were sure fun to drive.

 

Type-S owns the Type-R.

 

First of all, I would like to point how how this thread was different from the others that were locked today because he did not simply say "x or x or x, what would you get?"

That said, I borrowed a friend's RSX Type S for a week. It was much more comfortable than the ITR and would make a better daily driver IMHO.

Unless you track the car, living with all of the headaches/burden that comes with owning an ITR is simply not worth it.

 

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Hell yeah.

 

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Unless you track the car, living with all of the headaches/burden that comes with owning an ITR is simply not worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

BINGO!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you track the car, living with all of the headaches/burden that comes with owning an ITR is simply not worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And the corollary to that statement (with which I agree) is, if you DO track the car, then the ITR has some distinct advantages over the RSX Type S.

I got the ITR because I was tired of playing a game of "find the weakest design point for track use and fix it" over and over again with my '94 GS-R, which I finally decided was just not up to the task (on the track; it's still a great street car). The ITR is a purpose-built track car, one you can take out there and flog, bone stock, and it will take everything you can give, and come back for more. I don't think you can make the same statement about the RSX Type S.

No diss towards the RSX Type S...

 

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I disagree. An RSX Type-S is perfectly trackable. An ITR makes a better track car yes, but unless you use the car for that purpose primarily then I'd suggest the Type-S since it's a far better car on the street, which may be this guy's primary driving location.

 

why did you sell the previous 2? that might help in answering your own question.

Also, you mention you haven't used your previous to its fullest potential... can you elaborate on that? you mean you don't go to track as often as you should be or you mean you go to track and don't drive hard?

I think it depends what you are planning to do,

Tracking &gt; daily driving = R
Daily driving &gt; tracking = RSX-S

Also, it makes a different if you have access to other daily driving cars (ie: that RSX base)

After owing 2 Rs, I am sure I might want something different. However having said that. it doesn't mean it has to be a RSX-S. (might be AWD WRX?)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave-ROR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I disagree. An RSX Type-S is perfectly trackable. An ITR makes a better track car yes, but unless you use the car for that purpose primarily then I'd suggest the Type-S since it's a far better car on the street, which may be this guy's primary driving location.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please don't get me wrong, I never said the Type S cannot be tracked.

The ITR is just a much better suited for track use than the Type S. So much better, that if I drove on the track regularly I would put up with the hassle of driving an ITR on the street. Heck, even if I only drove on the track occasionally.

Since he mentioned he never made full use of his ITRs in the past, I would recommend the Type S.

 

If you don't mind the rough ride on the regular road, then even there the ITR is much better then the type-s. I've driven my friends type-s a bunch of times.. and in my opinion.. you jsut don't get that "connected" feeling you get in the ITR. Even if you don't track the car, but prefer to be at one with the road then the ITR is the much better choice in my opinion.


Modified by RiCE On IcE 2 at 10:49 PM 1/27/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RiCE On IcE 2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you don't mind the rough ride on the regular road, then even there the ITR is much better then the type-s. I've driven my friends type-s a bunch of times.. and in my opinion.. you jsut don't get that "connected" feeling you get in the ITR. Even if you don't track the car, but prefer to be at one with the road then the ITR is the much better choise in my opinion.</TD></TR></TABLE> Agreed
I had a type R, I have a typeS now. Type S is a bit more luxurious but you don't feel planted to the road.
Cons - Macpherson struts, cable transmission instead of solid rod, reflector headlights, supposedly K20 has more potential but I miss the growl on the B18.

The only pro I can think of is the low theft rate.

I only have 12,000 miles and the headgasket had to be changed

I had 32,000 miles on my R and it was flawless

Get an S2K if you want to upgrade, RSX if you want to downgrade

 

type r's are much rarer cars and they look so much better in my opinion.
type s's are ok i guess....just ok

 

It's been my experience that the ITR has the distinct advantage during hard driving. I like the suspension geometry a lot better and think it has a lot of untapped potential in stock form despite the already great suspension that comes with the car. But the RSX-S is a competent handler though it lacks the direct feedback you get from the ITR. The RSX-S also makes use of a more capable engine that's fairly easy to modify with only bolt-ons. It all depends upon what you want.

 

theft is more likely with type r. You sleep better at night with type s

 

i love seeing the type s in my rear veiw mirror every time

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darryl Musashi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Agreed
I had a type R, I have a typeS now. Type S is a bit more luxurious but you don't feel planted to the road.
Cons - Macpherson struts, cable transmission instead of solid rod, reflector headlights, supposedly K20 has more potential but I miss the growl on the B18.

The only pro I can think of is the low theft rate.

I only have 12,000 miles and the headgasket had to be changed

I had 32,000 miles on my R and it was flawless

Get an S2K if you want to upgrade, RSX if you want to downgrade</TD></TR></TABLE>

DITTO!

 

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then which one is faster?
STOCK

 

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then which one is faster?
STOCK</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here's a hint....it isn't the Type S.

 

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Here's a hint....it isn't the Type S.</TD></TR></TABLE>

fo sho fo sho

 

Go with the type r...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zmeflyby &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">type r's are much rarer cars and they look so much better in my opinion.
type s's are ok i guess....just ok </TD></TR></TABLE>

And what the **** do you drive Mr. RSX type-s' are just ok WTF

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-1194 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Tracking &gt; daily driving = R
Daily driving &gt; tracking = RSX-S
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Definitely agree here. The R has a much more capable suspension, but the S has a more capable motor. Ive had the chance to drive the S, and its a 100% more comfortable to drive, the tranny is nice and its a very well built car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eEKEGg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theft is more likely with type r. You sleep better at night with type s</TD></TR></TABLE>

Once the k-series really catches on, that may change.

To me, the ITR is more of a driver's car. The Type-S is o.k., but leaves me wanting more. Perhaps if I owned one and tweaked the motor a little ( ) I might feel differently.

 

You people keep missing that he's already owned two ITRs. I think it's somewhat safe to say that owning a third isn't really going to be any different for him.

if you must buy a honda, get the type-s. Type-R == HYPED by people who can't even drive well.

 

Ok - here is an unbiased opinion who drives both on a daily basis.

I own a Type-R that is built for track use. I'm not a "h4rdc0r3" tracker like some of you here, so I'll try to keep it as opinionated as possible. I drive my car to it's limits... I also drive it to work on occasion. (50 miles there and 50 miles back) = 100 in total. I occasionally switch off with the lady... who <U>use</U> to own a Type-R, but got stolen. She now owns a Type-S.

It's truely simple as alotof people stated earlier. If you're buying a car to take on the track and have fun whipping it around, get another R and explore it's possibilities.

In conclusion:
Track = R
Daily = S

Both have potential in both directions. One is "built-specific" and one is the jack of all trades I guess?

If you're buying a car to drive everyday with comfort and luxury, get the S. It's WAY easier to drive everyday. As alot have stated, the motor has huge potential... even with bolt-ons. I don't car what ANYONE here says... that thing was neck and neck with my R (intake on both cars)