Wife wants a S2000 and I don't think she should.
In about 6 -8 months. I know all the good stuff (Pros). Tell me some real world "cons" from your experience.
She knows nothing about VTEC, 4 disc, ABS, etc. and don't care. She want me to teach her to drive manual trans, which is cool. She cares more about the convertible part, so that's why I'm not sure S2000 is a good choice for her.
For me, that's another story
. But since "we" will be paying for it, I need to make sure the right decision is made.
TIA
She knows nothing about VTEC, 4 disc, ABS, etc. and don't care. She want me to teach her to drive manual trans, which is cool. She cares more about the convertible part, so that's why I'm not sure S2000 is a good choice for her.
For me, that's another story
. But since "we" will be paying for it, I need to make sure the right decision is made.TIA
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my wife is the same (and I'd sure love to own one), but unfortunately our wallet doesn't allow it.. if all she cares about is convertible, what's wrong with a used miata (also what i've been looking at), or a chevy cavalier
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my wife is the same (and I'd sure love to own one), but unfortunately our wallet doesn't allow it.. if all she cares about is convertible, what's wrong with a used miata (also what i've been looking at), or a chevy cavalier
I might be a sexist *** here but I would never want my girlfriend or wife driving an S2000 full time. The car is not a car for the timid or a girl who wants some top down fun! It's a race car, RWD, and it's very small which = very dangerous in the hands of a beginner or amateur! I am personally looking at getting my girlfriend a base model Audi TT with AWD for safety and they are still quick and frankly have a much more appealing interior-at least to women-... I would feel much mre comfortable with her in the Audi, especially in the NorthWest where we get alot of rain. I just hate the fact that it's a Volkswagen.
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i totally agree... although YES that was sexist haha! Im a chick and i LOVE my car... BUT!!!!, it really isnt a good car ro learn on bc the RWD is an issue (Ive already gotten some ditch action on a slick morning asphalt road!) and plus the clutch is kinda stiff compared to say, a civic (which was what i learned on)... i had to re-learn on my car since i never really mastered it! If shes interested in just the convertible... i feel that a bad *** RACE CAR like the S is wasted on her...
i feel the same way when i see old rich *** men driving their vipers all pansy and takin their sweet time when a light turns green...
</TD></TR></TABLE>i totally agree... although YES that was sexist haha! Im a chick and i LOVE my car... BUT!!!!, it really isnt a good car ro learn on bc the RWD is an issue (Ive already gotten some ditch action on a slick morning asphalt road!) and plus the clutch is kinda stiff compared to say, a civic (which was what i learned on)... i had to re-learn on my car since i never really mastered it! If shes interested in just the convertible... i feel that a bad *** RACE CAR like the S is wasted on her...
i feel the same way when i see old rich *** men driving their vipers all pansy and takin their sweet time when a light turns green...
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Man, I feel sorry for your wife then. My wife loves her S2k to death and I wouldn't want her driving anything she didn't absolutely love. It's a sports car yeah, but it's more of a roadster than a race car. It's not like the power is there right off the line either, which makes the car alot easier to daily drive and control. Treating a woman like that and never letting her at least try something risky is a shame and an insult to her. You don't learn by not trying. Even if you're that concerned, a little quality time in the car and some teaching will help resolve driving problems, and if not that, driving school is not that expensive. If you can afford an S2k, :rollseyes:, you can afford a racing school.
Hell, I bet given time to learn and get comfortable, your "timid" wife could probably out-drive the **** out of you.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Man, I feel sorry for your wife then. My wife loves her S2k to death and I wouldn't want her driving anything she didn't absolutely love. It's a sports car yeah, but it's more of a roadster than a race car. It's not like the power is there right off the line either, which makes the car alot easier to daily drive and control. Treating a woman like that and never letting her at least try something risky is a shame and an insult to her. You don't learn by not trying. Even if you're that concerned, a little quality time in the car and some teaching will help resolve driving problems, and if not that, driving school is not that expensive. If you can afford an S2k, :rollseyes:, you can afford a racing school.
Hell, I bet given time to learn and get comfortable, your "timid" wife could probably out-drive the **** out of you.
Why don't you let her test drive it? She might get in it and not even like it anymore. I test drove my S2K and fell in love with it. Hey have you even thought that she might not like driving a standard? Why don't you try teaching her how to drive a standard first? Let her test drive all the convertibles in the same class as the S2K like the Miata and the SLK for instance. My husband and I did this, and I chose the S2K. However, I learned to drive a standard on my husbands old Chevy S10 which had a center force racing clutch. Needless to say, I haven't had too much difficulty handling my car. By the way the S2K is not a race car, but it's a roadster. I agree that this car is difficult for a beginner, but how is anyone supposed to learn how to drive such a car unless they get in it and try. I can understand your wanting to ensure her safety by not allowing her the joy of driving this car, but it's not the car that would put her in danger. If she can't enjoy driving her vehicle, it's not the car for her. She may love the S2K in which case she would be even more cautious while driving. You shouldn't limit someone's choices just because you think they can't handle it, but you should allow them the opportunity to make their own decision on this matter. Finally, fknfast<U></U> you are so full of it!! Oh and sex has no bearing on whether or not you know how to and can drive this car.We women will drive whatever we want, even the S2K. Where do you come off with saying that:
"s2000= no woman drivers PERIOD ever"
This sort of attitude doesn't belong here, and in my opinion neither do you.
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"s2000= no woman drivers PERIOD ever"
This sort of attitude doesn't belong here, and in my opinion neither do you.
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That's funny, cause almost all the ones I ever see are driven by women. Women can drive every bit as good as men.
That's funny, cause almost all the ones I ever see are driven by women. Women can drive every bit as good as men.
Dramier, Jadira - Well said.
There are many things in the "automobile world" that **** me off. One of those things are people who think women can't drive performance oriented cars, or just can't drive period. Get over yourselves.
I know there are a lot of people out in this world who are better drivers than I am, and guess what? A lot of them are women. So quit with this, "Women shouldn't drive an S2K" bullshit, because you know what? That's exactly what it is, it's bullshit.
Oh, and to GoLowDrew - You want my opinion as to what I think you should do? I say you go ahead and see if she likes driving a standard, and then take her to test drive an S2K, and if she likes it - Get it.
EDIT - Allow me to clear this up. My post was not intended for the originator of this thread, as what he said did not upset me. It was for the people who don't think women should be allowed behind the wheel of a "sports car," namely fknfast.
There are many things in the "automobile world" that **** me off. One of those things are people who think women can't drive performance oriented cars, or just can't drive period. Get over yourselves.
I know there are a lot of people out in this world who are better drivers than I am, and guess what? A lot of them are women. So quit with this, "Women shouldn't drive an S2K" bullshit, because you know what? That's exactly what it is, it's bullshit.
Oh, and to GoLowDrew - You want my opinion as to what I think you should do? I say you go ahead and see if she likes driving a standard, and then take her to test drive an S2K, and if she likes it - Get it.
EDIT - Allow me to clear this up. My post was not intended for the originator of this thread, as what he said did not upset me. It was for the people who don't think women should be allowed behind the wheel of a "sports car," namely fknfast.
Don't be an idiot and misundestand what Isaid... I said that I wouldn't want my girlfriend driving one- I never siad that women can't drive as well as men can! But this car is not very forgiving and I don't want my girlfriend to wind up in a wreck because she like this sporty car! There are plenty of sporty cnvertibles that won't put her life in as much jeopardy! If you are one of those girls who likes to run with the boys and race your car- more power to you... MY GIRLFRIEND IS NOT THIS TYPE...
Read and take a deep breath before typing; so as to not take things out of context!
Read and take a deep breath before typing; so as to not take things out of context!
let her test drive the s2k and then a miata, if she really doesnt care about performance, she'll pick the miata, and the last time i checked, all you have to know about 4 wheel disc brakes and ABS is that you press the damn brake pedal, and what the hell does it matter if she doesnt know what vtec is? oh no, she might not be able to be as fast as she possibly can, but the fact that she doesnt know what vtec is should have no bearing on choosing a car. its not like you have to perform a complicated procedure to work the "v-tek y0". honda did all the work, so you dont need to know how it works, just that it does work.
im not trying to be an ***, but the miata is a much better choice for her. first of all they come in automatic. im pretty sure likes the s2000 b/c its a convertible, and the miata offers this.
learning to drive a manual transmission on a s2000 is tricky and very hard on teh car. at least rent a 5-spd manual car from enterprise(they have some) and practice on that.
learning to drive a manual transmission on a s2000 is tricky and very hard on teh car. at least rent a 5-spd manual car from enterprise(they have some) and practice on that.
Is she planning to race this thing? What is so tricky about learning to drive this car? Sheesh, my wife learned to drive stick on my Porsche. Although she's not Michael Schumaker, I'm confident when I'm in the passenger seat. Hell, I bought the S2000 so she wouldn't put so many miles on it.
Very true. I taught my ex to drive her celica gt-s six speed in about 3 days and she was driving it around no problem (yes stalling every now and then, but soon she became an excellent driver). Trust me, that celica has an unforgiving clutch... but if the person likes the car, believe me, they will drive it and drive it well. Don't decide for your gf. You're not her owner.
The title of this thread is funny b/c I don't understand why you are posting it in a public forum. Sound like you've already made up your mind and it's not a good choice. If your wife can't drive period, maybe you should teach her how and explain to her what vtec is and what not. Don't make fun of her. She may not know a whole lot about cars but you can always change that by teaching her.
It's wrong to say a gender can't do this or that...but guys really can't have babies so...let's keep personal attacks aside and leave that for PM's. I haven't heard a more idiotic arguement than a women can't drive a s2000 b/c she not a male.
It's wrong to say a gender can't do this or that...but guys really can't have babies so...let's keep personal attacks aside and leave that for PM's. I haven't heard a more idiotic arguement than a women can't drive a s2000 b/c she not a male.
You guys can all have your opinions but think twice before posting it as you need to considere other people in here and how they will respond to your opinion.
You dumbasses must be out of your f@#king minds. First off, the S2k is a RACE CAR??? I seriously hope that you were joking. Second off, like Vapor and so many others have said, gender has nothing to do with driving ability. My girlfriend drives my T/A (RWD, almost 400 hp and a lot more torque than any other vehicle in question here
) whenever the situation calls for it, and she drives it a lot more safely than I do. I also taught her to drive stick in my old Camaro. Repeat after me, mental giants, "Think before you speak" "Think before you speak"
) whenever the situation calls for it, and she drives it a lot more safely than I do. I also taught her to drive stick in my old Camaro. Repeat after me, mental giants, "Think before you speak" "Think before you speak"
What the hell is wrong with you guys?! Since when the **** does gender determine what type of car you can and can't drive? If I was you I would buy the damn s2000 and be happy as hell your wife appericates and thinks the s2k is a "cool" car. Thats way the hell better than a wife/girlfriend who doesn't appricate and support your hobby. Your wife just might become a "boost junkie." BTW I go to school with a girl who drives a modded civic and I went for a ride with her and she purposely spun the tires into second, AND third, with no extensive engine mods! Personally I think a woman who can drive a manual and drive it right and fast is awesome. Something about the foot and hand coordnation that turns me on. Thinking that women can't drive as good as men is not only sexist but makes you sound like a ******* ignorant loser
BTW I'm a guy, if your thick skull and whatever the **** is in there, couldn't figure it out.
BTW I'm a guy, if your thick skull and whatever the **** is in there, couldn't figure it out.
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What the hell.........you guys talk like an S2000 is an uncontrollable car. Hahaha a race car it is not, it is sporty but you guys talk like the gobs and gobs of power that it makes (240hp) is to crazy to even be on the street. Hahaha that gave me a good laugh.
Keep up the good work
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What the hell.........you guys talk like an S2000 is an uncontrollable car. Hahaha a race car it is not, it is sporty but you guys talk like the gobs and gobs of power that it makes (240hp) is to crazy to even be on the street. Hahaha that gave me a good laugh.
Keep up the good work
Modified by WS6Dreams at 8:50 PM 1/28/2004
First off it is a race car Period. Whether you choose to drive it like one or not- it is! The s2000 is one of the closest production cars to a "true race car"... It's not sporty so don't call it a sporty car.
It's not about having "gobs and gobs of power" it's about it's handling characteristics, light weight, and engine layout -Front mount Mid engine...
To clarify I never said that a girl cannot drive as good as a man... A girl can do almost everything a man can do and vice versa just as well! I was simply stating that I wouldn't want my girlfriend to drive this type of car! Frankly she doesn't like me driving it either.
Girls are equal to men in automobiles if they choose to be! Just like I am sure men can do makeup just as well IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO... Whatever your interests are if you practice you will succeed whether male or female!
Last but not least lets never compare a POS F body to a Honda s2000...
It's not about having "gobs and gobs of power" it's about it's handling characteristics, light weight, and engine layout -Front mount Mid engine...
To clarify I never said that a girl cannot drive as good as a man... A girl can do almost everything a man can do and vice versa just as well! I was simply stating that I wouldn't want my girlfriend to drive this type of car! Frankly she doesn't like me driving it either.
Girls are equal to men in automobiles if they choose to be! Just like I am sure men can do makeup just as well IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO... Whatever your interests are if you practice you will succeed whether male or female!
Last but not least lets never compare a POS F body to a Honda s2000...
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Last but not least lets never compare a POS F body to a Honda s2000...
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I value and respect everyone's opinion, that's just how I am, but I question them also.
As for the S2000 being a race car. It is not. The S2000 is an awesome car in itself, but unfortunately it is not a race car. You want a race car? Grab yourself a Ferrari.
Also, the comment about F-Body's being a "POS," could you please enlighten me as to why you think this? I happen to own an F-Body and think heavily otherwise. So, explain to me how it's a piece of **** (Answers like - "Because it's a DUMBestic," "Because it's a domestic," or "Because it's a domestic piece of ****," do not qualify as answers).
Last but not least lets never compare a POS F body to a Honda s2000...
</TD></TR></TABLE>I value and respect everyone's opinion, that's just how I am, but I question them also.
As for the S2000 being a race car. It is not. The S2000 is an awesome car in itself, but unfortunately it is not a race car. You want a race car? Grab yourself a Ferrari.
Also, the comment about F-Body's being a "POS," could you please enlighten me as to why you think this? I happen to own an F-Body and think heavily otherwise. So, explain to me how it's a piece of **** (Answers like - "Because it's a DUMBestic," "Because it's a domestic," or "Because it's a domestic piece of ****," do not qualify as answers).
i just think that we dont want our wives/girlfriends to have a better car than ours. And gender shouldnt matter
I worked for General Motors for 3 Years and happen to think the design and construction of the F bodies are poor. The interior is just bad and the reliability is lacking in every aspect- transmission, motor, and don't even get me started on the suspension. Why do you think they killed the Camaro and Firebird... No sales and the car began to kill the nostalgia and heritage of two cars that long ago were great machines.
As for the S2000 not being a race car- tell me why? What about the car makes it not a race car besides it being a convertible? I would love to hear your opinions on this...
It is a race car- so are most Ferrari's.
See that little red button- race car
9k redline- race car
gear ratios- race car
light weight high powered RWD- race car
6 speed with " one of the best transmissions in any car ever"- race car
High X bone frame, anti roll bars, tie bars- race car
Fiber reinforced cylinder walls- race car
50/50 weight distribution-race car
lack of sufficient cargo areas- race car
mid engine-race car
fastest piston speed of any production car in the world-race car
highest HP per liter engine of any production car in the world-race car
specific purpose made race tires... see this link and look at the other cars that use this tire as OEM- race cars
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/dpp/
Click on Potenza S02 in the drop down menu
This list could go on and on and on.........
Yeah granted it has leather seats and A/C buy lets be practical here.
As for the S2000 not being a race car- tell me why? What about the car makes it not a race car besides it being a convertible? I would love to hear your opinions on this...
It is a race car- so are most Ferrari's.
See that little red button- race car
9k redline- race car
gear ratios- race car
light weight high powered RWD- race car
6 speed with " one of the best transmissions in any car ever"- race car
High X bone frame, anti roll bars, tie bars- race car
Fiber reinforced cylinder walls- race car
50/50 weight distribution-race car
lack of sufficient cargo areas- race car
mid engine-race car
fastest piston speed of any production car in the world-race car
highest HP per liter engine of any production car in the world-race car
specific purpose made race tires... see this link and look at the other cars that use this tire as OEM- race cars
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/dpp/
Click on Potenza S02 in the drop down menu
This list could go on and on and on.........
Yeah granted it has leather seats and A/C buy lets be practical here.



