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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 06:36 AM
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itsa a 98 civic coupe....i dunno which one to get. both deals come with tokico blues

1) Tokico blues w/ H+R Springs for 300shipped
2)Tokico blues w/ Progress springs for 300

i want to smooth ride...no autocross or anything just luxury and smoothness counts...thanks guys!
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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a friend of mine once had progress springs on his car and it was low but yet it rode very smoooth, and he was using stock shocks, i had stock shocks with neuspeed race and mines was a tab more bouncier ..so from that experience progress was really good. i have none with H&R but i havent heard anything bad from them either, so **** i guess choose from color, progress should be blue and H&R should be green i think. :-x
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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No .. neuspeeds are green, and H&R are red or black depending on which model.

I'd go H&R thugh i had them on my hatch and i loved them. Awesome ride, good drop .. was on stock shocks for 8 months with no problems at all.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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just make sure the spring rates are not more than about 250f and 200r and you should get exactly what you are looking for.

tokico bluse are good for about a 2in drop. anaything more and it might get bouncy on you.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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neuspeed is yellow for the race drop and green for the sports drop, i dont know H&R's
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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I'd go H&R as well. I've got a friend with those, and compared to my ride, its alot different. Both of us are on stock shocks.

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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Go w/ H&R's. But I'd get Eibach.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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are the progreses springs and blues..worth 3 hundred..used 3k miles
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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tokico shocks i believe are in the $300 range new, and springs are around $100 new.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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i have h&r's and they ride good but they didn't give me enough drop, so i'm gonna change them out for skunk 2.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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anymore opinions? H+R or Progress
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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Progressive springs drop over time, therefore your camber and alignment will not be accurate. Which would not give 100% traction from your tires to the pavement, which could make your car slower, hence less traction. I don't want to go into detail...

Unless you can align and camber correct your sus every 6 months, don't go progressive springs... Blah... If this is confusing, please let me know. I will explain if need be...
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=746264

- Here you go, look at the pictures from this crazy guy, you can see how much traction he lost...
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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do h+r ride as smooth as progressive?
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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I swapped my pro-kits for some H&R sports. So far I love the H&R sports (paired with koni yellows). The H&Rs ride extremely smooth (this is more a function of the shock) and perform well while cornering. H&R sports are also black. I think that the H&R race springs are red.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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i'm still lost.....which one has better smoothness?
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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h&r
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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h&r
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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i see i see
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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I would go with the H&R's. My friend has the Progress springs on his Accord, and I think they are a bad spring. It rides like it is just floating and he has my old KYB AGX's and I don't like those shocks with those springs, I had Tanabe Sustec Springs and with the KYB's it was a very good setup. Also his springs sag more and more, so I would say go with the H&R's.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 976 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Progressive springs drop over time, therefore your camber and alignment will not be accurate. Which would not give 100% traction from your tires to the pavement, which could make your car slower, hence less traction. I don't want to go into detail...

Unless you can align and camber correct your sus every 6 months, don't go progressive springs... Blah... If this is confusing, please let me know. I will explain if need be... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I disagree....

The springs in question are made by the progress group. They are progressive, but so are the H&Rs. In fact, the majority of the lowering springs on the market today are progressive rate springs. H&R, progress group, Eibach, Neuspeed all make progressive rate springs. Top suspension maufacturers make the rates progressive by either changing the spacing between the coils or by varying the diameter of the spring wire.

Progressive rate springs will not require you to align your car every 6 months or any more than a set of linear rate springs would.

I vote for progress by the way
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