what spring/shock combo or coilover set has the best ride??? best ride meaning most comfortable and most handling....... let me know ........... thanks

 

out of all the setups ive been through. You cant go wrong with a regular lowering spring and shock. Once u get into the coilover sleeves thats where you throw ride quality out the window.

 

I have Tokico Blues with Ground Control Coilovers. They are good, rough on crap roads, but you can take 90 degree corners at 70kmph without the wheels even chirping. The GC coils are really easy to adjust too. Here is the ride hight. Not down all the way I could go another inch or 2 easy.



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Aw man, got my shirt all wet drooling so long.


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As soon as my tax return comes in and I get my kit, I'm going to get GCs/Koni's as well. I've heard over and over that's the way to go. You could vary the shocks a little I think, but GC's are the coilovers of choice... Or you could get teins if u had some money. Their lowest full coilover system isn't much more than a GC/Koni setup I'd think, maybe a variance of $100-200 unless you've got mad hookups and need to share the wealth with me!

 

I've used Ground Controls and Tokico blues, Skunkworks and Tokico Illuminas, and Tein SS. The Tein SS win by a long shot.

 

I have tokico blues with arospeed coilovers nice ride and fairly easy to adjust

and hey CRXFORUM is your dash painted or wrapped?

 

thanks guys.................. anyone else? i think tein ss is the way to go huh?

 

i've had skunk2 coilovers with tokico blues and it rode nice, also had eibach sportlines, neuspeed sportlines and Rs-R springs with tokico blues they all rode alright. I personally like the feel with springs better because to me it's smoother, but the disadvantage is you cant adjust your height, but what ever floats your preferences.

just dont use shocks, cause damn it's not a comfortable ride. It will ride good for like 1 month and like after that it sucks.

 

If I had the money I would definately go with tein coilovers, they are just a little out of my price range

 

gc's and kyb's


they ride great

 

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What the hell do you mean. All coil-overs have springs, sleeved and unsleeved.

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again, WHAT......... What do you use instead of shocks?

To answer the question asked I have to ask a question, How much do you want to spend? More then a 1000.00 or under?

 

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$875 shipped from vtecvoodoo. Can't beat it.

 

I have Gc coilovers and kyb gr2 struts~! rides fine~!

 

I got a sweet deal on a brand new SRR Performance Cup Kit on ebay - $239 shipped. Springs and shocks. They retail for over $800. There is a snap ring on the shocks that can be raised/lowered to set the spring perch on. They do require 88 CRX lca's because of their ball/eye mount (instead of fork). I am quite impressed by them. They are very stiff compared to most other setups I've seen, yet they still ride pretty nice. The only other thing is that I still have some wheel gap even at the lowest seting. This is probably due to the fact that this kit is the exact same one for ITR's (my car wieghs 1900lbs), and also, I'm riding on 13 inch vx wheels. I give a to the setup. The price couldn't be beat.

 

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Can someone please tell me the difference between shocks and coil-overs.....
The last time I checked the only difference was that shocks have springs that sit the whole way down on a shock and the coil-over has a "spring perch" that can be raised and lowered.

Both set ups have shocks and springs. I don't get what these people are trying to say.......

 

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Can someone please tell me the difference between shocks and coil-overs.....
The last time I checked the only difference was that shocks have springs that sit the whole way down on a shock and the coil-over has a "spring perch" that can be raised and lowered.

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^^^bump for this, i too am totally lost

 

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I hope you are being sarcastic because that is what I was being because these people don't know what they are stating.

 

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gyeah .....this is funny as hell, i want em' to keep it rollin

 

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ok I was just checking.

 

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LudeEF grabs an oar, jumps in furball's boat and starts paddling

 

**** yeah come on in.

Furball = lending hand......

 

oh, and so i dont get accused of PW'ing. i have H&R's on AGX's with the prothane kit. the adjustibility of the dampers is nice when making the conversion from street to track. obviously it dosent resemble a stock ride, but thats because it's 2" lower than a stock car. and it seems to be the closest thing for around $700(including bushings) to a "comfortable street ride" and still be a mean cornering beast.

 

Well I don’t post often, but I saw this and thought I could help clear a few things up.


First off, everyone here is talking about 3 different setups. First being a simple spring and shock setup.

The shock and spring setup (eg: Koni shock with an H&R spring) is a good option for a daily driven car that doesn’t see any track or auto cross time. Generally you will get an OKAY ride quality out of these with mildly increased handling properties. With the majority of systems out there (I can only think of one “sport kit” that doesn’t) you will be sacrificing a little ride quality for a little better handling. All in all a good solution for a little cheaper than going with a coilover.

Next a lot of people seemed to be confused when it comes to a coilover vs. a sleeve over. A sleeve over is NOT a coilover. A Sleeve over is any system that is a basic threaded perch that slides over your existing shock, or an aftermarket shock of your choice. My personal opinion of ALL sleeve over system is that they are garbage. The reasons I say this are many, but I will list a couple of my top concerns with a sleeve over system.

1) You are matching up a spring rate with a shock that was not tuned specifically for that spring rate. Thus the spring may be too high or low rated for the shock, or the shock may not be valved to control the spring properly.

2) Anytime you lower a vehicle, you are changing the range of the shock you are using. If this shock is not specifically made to work at a lowered height; your ride quality will be adversely affected, as well as handling and life of the system.

In my opinion you would be MUCH smarter to go with a shock and spring combo than to go with a sleeve over system.

Last are the true coilovers. True coilover systems are a spring and shock combo with a threaded shock to allow for adjustment of the spring. These systems are usually better because the shock usually is custom valved for the car it’s going on, and valved to work properly within a specific lowering range. The spring rate and the shock will be matched to provide you with the best handling and comfort possible. Your best bet for a great handling car is usually a true coilover system.

Contrary to popular belief, “harder” does not mean better handling. You don’t have to loose teeth while going over bumps to have an amazing handling ride. Higher spring rates and stiffer shocks don’t necessarily mean a better handling car if its not valved properly .

However, there are always things to look for when buying a coilover. Where all the pieces produced in house, or are the springs made in China while the shocks are made in the USA? Is each system built for each specific type of car, or does the company use any sort of universal shock program? Can they build you a custom system for you vehicle? How knowledgably are the staff when you call? All these questions should be answered when you are investing that much money into a system that should last you for years.

Just my 2 cents. Oh yeah, I work for a suspension company, that’s why I jumped in. Happy motoring guys.

 

i gotta disagree with a couplethings you said, first your use of the term "coilover". in fact, "coilover" means any suspension system that has the spring "coiled over" the shock, whether it be adjustable or not. threaded sleeves simply provide "adjustable spring perch" and there is nothing more "true" of a threaded shock tube that makes it a "true coilover" than the normal stock design, unless it originally came with anything other than a coil spring-over the shock design (eg. VW rear suspension isnt coilover)

also, shocks are NOT range sensitive until you actually bottom out on the shock, or start riding the bumpstops. for ultra sensitive F1 shocks, they care about change in displacement of the shock tube, but for our application, the shock really isnt range sensitive.

you further read my propaganda on my FAQ. its been generally accepted by the RR/AX forum and its users.
http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/coilover.html

 

i am now running weapon r coil overs lowered about 2 1/2" with 86-89 accord struts (munroes) the strut is almost fully extened with my car that low. great ride on the struts part the coilovers are a little harsh.