I noticed the Japanese Hondas' are still selling the S2000 with their f20c engines. Then where is the 2.2 liter from? is it to cater the American market?

BTW if anyone has a broken in '04 S2000 sound clip I would love to hear it.

 

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Yes.

 

Sad ain't it. Our country just doesn't have the appreciation that Honda had in mind when the car was created.

 

The 04 is for the typical American buyer that wants this, and wants that (more TORQUE 2.2, ROOM, SOFTER RIDING) blah blah.... the older ones are the true s2000s thats why japan kept them and america has to please the buyer because they cater to everyones needs!!! japan= dont like dont buy it ..... AMERICA= dum asses

 

the 04's are pretty cool too, but the 00-03 fit me better(i love high revving, high hp, low torque hondas).

 

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Hell ya! I don't care if my S isn't the fastest or coolest car out there, they aren't a dime a dozen like most "affordable" sports cars.
The S always turns heads - even if just a few....

 

Stock for stock the 04's are a better overall car than the previous models, in things like hp/tq (underrated figures), grip and transmission feel. Although I miss the signature 9k redline, and id probably enjoy a 03 model with say toda header, exhaust and larger wheels/tires over a new model.

 

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The '04 makes more power, more torque, and has a suspenion that is tuned beyond the preceding years. If you're telling me more torque is a bad thing on a road course, I don't know what form of motorsports you're in, torque even helps quarter mile times. Plus, it's the lastest model and will hopefully be prone to bugs that existed in the previous model years. No need to get upset over all this. I have an '01 and look foward to driving a friend's 04.

 

just read the new scc. they finally got some specs fromthe 04's


04 s2k
whp: 210@8k
tq : 146@6400
0-60 : 6.4 sec
1/4 : 14.4 @ 97.2mph. &lt;-- with clutch almost gone

the real noticable changes the testers felt.

slalom : 71mph &lt;--- that's exotic territory
skid : .89g &lt;--- they marked this down from a .92g from earlier models.

 

theres no way id take an 04 over mine(mines paid off). i still like em though i love the new look big time!

 

I bet the japs are talking **** about how "lucky" americans are for getting the 2.2...lol. Just like we talk about them being lucky for the having all those cool cars (skyline, sylvias, ctr,...etc) lol

 

For the pre 04 haters out there, take my 2.2L and shove it up yer ***

 

I just purchased my 04 S2000 two weeks ago and love it. I sold my ITR for an MDX in 2003 because of my son being born. Well, after less than a year I needed a sports car again. After I break-in the motor I'm hitting some autocrosses as this is my first rear wheel drive car and want to get a feel of it at its limits before I do any HPDE. I would have liked the 9k redline like the previous years but the low end tq. is a nice trade off.

 

Personally as long as you can live with the B16 type acceleration from 1-5k when you hit 6 grand it's smooth sailing, and when you shift, you're in vtec again.

You don't see 2 stroke 500CC Moto GP riders complaining about torque, why? It's because they kill the liter hogs in the turns.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Personally as long as you can live with the B16 type acceleration from 1-5k when you hit 6 grand it's smooth sailing, and when you shift, you're in vtec again.

You don't see 2 stroke 500CC Moto GP riders complaining about torque, why? It's because they kill the liter hogs in the turns.

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lol, I don't understand how you can refer to pre-vtec in the F20C as on the same level as a b16. You do understand there's a difference b/w the two motors? Even if you're trying to make fun, the comparison is way off.

 

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Shouldn't you have said - Shove it up your "tailpipe" ? bawahahahahhahah!!

 

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04 s2k
whp: 210@8k
tq : 146@6400
0-60 : 6.4 sec
1/4 : 14.4 @ 97.2mph. &lt;-- with clutch almost gone

the real noticable changes the testers felt.

slalom : 71mph &lt;--- that's exotic territory
skid : .89g &lt;--- they marked this down from a .92g from earlier models.

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i've read in couple mags that the 00-03 does 0-60 in like 5.5 seconds. im sure the 04 can do much better than 6.4.

 

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lol, I don't understand how you can refer to pre-vtec in the F20C as on the same level as a b16. You do understand there's a difference b/w the two motors? Even if you're trying to make fun, the comparison is way off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed. on paper when someone sees 153 pd/ft torque, they think it lacks torque. but the short gear ratios and high FD ratio change everything.

 

the 04 s2k looks nice and the 2.2L upgrade is def nice...but i wish it still have the 9k redline...low end tq plus more high end..that would put a on my face

 

I'm comparing in my personal experience, and I meant b16 VTEC...

 

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You're so beyond awesome, I don't even have a word to define it.

 

You people are ******* nuts, some of you who are arguing with me have probably never even driven the car, I'm not stating statistics, I'm stating an opinion, and I have a right to an opinion.

In my opinion the S2000 has very little torque, and those of you who wish to disagree are in denial.

I stated that I don't care how much torque it has because I like the car the way it is.

 

I love my 01 S2000, but sadly I will have to get rid of it and buy a house...but I do plan on buying an S2000 again as soon as I get settled in my new house in about 2 years...

And I am glad Honda refreshed the S2000...

Anyone want to buy an '01 S2000 with 16k miles on in August? for about 23k?

 

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You're right the torque curve is quite the same from the F20C to a B16A. So is the stroke, bore, valve sizes, intake and exhuast ports as well as the camshaft profiles. I wont argue anymore.

 

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You're right the torque curve is quite the same from the F20C to a B16A. So is the stroke, bore, valve sizes, intake and exhuast ports as well as the camshaft profiles. I wont argue anymore. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't ******* argue about semantics. You're the type of person that always has to be right. I'm talking about how it feels.

There's not much difference between the feeling of 130 pounds of torque and 153. Both the Si and S2000 weigh the same.