Since the admins have archived some of the older content (rendering it inaccessible through searching) I thought I'd ask a question about adjustable front ball joints, and other similar camber adjusters.

While rebuilding the front end of the beast, why not get some adjustables, right? At some point someone (probably Scott) posted something about these things banging into the fenderwells - and a fix for the problem. I've already read https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=44833 about ten times tonight - it looks like the K-MAC thing might be a bit problematic. So I'm eyeing the Specialty Products one.

So...do they bang against the top of the fender? I certainly believe that they could, it's just surprising that they hit before the tire does.

BTW - all I think I need to get is ~ 2-2.5 degrees negative up front. I've got that now, but the car is awfully low - methinks perhaps a touch too low. Of course the kids at gas stations love it...

--Karl, who has actually started test driving tow vehicles...

 

If you all dont mind I would like to add to this..the KingMotorsports upper A-arms.

I am looking into these and would like to hear if these suffer from problems.

 

Karl,

Call Scott Zellner at King Motorsports and tell him you want the set of front upper a-arms he hasn't sent to me yet, and the only thing you'll have to worry about is long front damper bodies. I can wait till next year for a set.

I assure you that my Z-Speed arms hit the top of the fenderwell well before the tire can make contact with the fenderwell. There is some dissonance in the story though. Scott Zellner insists that we remove the fender liners and beat flat the seam, and that if we don't we will cut our tires. I cut up the fender liner about the flattened seam and have gobs of clearance at arm bottom. I noticed that half of the Moto Cup cars didn't beat their seams down. That's what I know about that.

What's this Specialty Products setup? Pictures? Link?

Scott, who urges Karl to forget the past and move forward.......right......dammit Dustin, we want access!


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There's a picture of the specialty products thing here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=44833

Basically it's an adjustable ball joint that replaces the existing one. A good solution for me since my balljoints are old and tired...and because it's cheap. Those Mugen thingies, while really nice, are a bit dear for me. Maybe this winter.

 

Hey krshultz,

After talking to Jeff from Kmac and consultation with the manufacture in Australia, no viable solution on my G2 GSR. Its sloping fenders and less upper control arm clearance then on G3’s, I removed the K-Mac’s and switched to supplied SPC adjustable ball joints for most of the season. I had good success, no slippage, loss of alignment or breakage problems after 23 + events and won the D/SP BC provincial championships and went undefeated during the season in the region. The upper nut and shaft required minor modification, reducing the height above the control arms with a little simple angle grinder work. I will try to get you some pictures for you this weekend. The biggest draw back of the SPC set-up is the ball joint thickness below the upper control arm, which is considerably thicker then the stock ball joints. This results in the upper control arm it self positioned that little bit higher in the wheel well and closer to the under side of the fender. This is particularly critical on the G2 with less clearance and usable shock travel, may not be quite as critical on G3s. Most of the season I ran 2.5 to 3 degrees camber on 205 X 50 X 15 Kumho V700. You don’t get the added bit of caster adjustment with the SPC ball joints that is available with the Kmac units but until I can build some fabricated upper control arms I’m going to stick with the SPC units. If you need any measurements or more info let me know.



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