what do u have to do to an S2k to make it beat supras and Rx7's? oh yeh what about the new M3's and C5 vettes? what do u guys need to beat em?

 

probably a Spoon Race motor checkin out at about 15-20 grand with a turbo or possibly a twin turbo. Especially for the Supra and RX7

 

I can guesstamate on these for you...

All of these depend on the launch. Since the S2000 feels like a station wagon at low rpms, launching right is everything.

For the supra, depends on the year. Assuming the S2000 guy can launch his car right, it should be close. Probably need 50-75hp more to beat one though.

RX7, should be close.
M3, no way. The 2001 M3 will blow a S2000s doors off. You would probably need 100hp more.
Z06, impossable. Not even in the same leage. I don't even know if a S2000 could beat one if you doubled its hp.

 

he never said anything about the Z06. He just said C5. I think it can be done. If ford can build a mustang that can beat the new M3 and the new Zo6, i think you could build an S2000 to do the same. And no, that mustang is not the Cobra R.

Twin Turbo Spoon Motor could do it i think. Hey i was thinking, how come no one races a Spoon S2K in Speedvision WC? Just a thought.

Either the Super Stallion or the FR500 will do it for you. Id lean more toward the Fr500 since it runs on a regular gas, makes 500 N/A Hp and has 50/50 weight. Yes you can buy these parts from Ford Racing.

 

My bad. A C5 is just slightly faster than a 01 M3. around 4.8 0-60...

 

i think it could be done. Its just gonna be some bucks. to the point where it is counter productive and no longer cost effective


[Modified by B-DIDDYR2K, 7:22 PM 10/3/2001]

 

well I woulda said Z06's but those run 114mph traps, and it takes a maxed out BPU supra to beat one.. so basically i should say how do u get an S2k to 110mph traps, and how to 118?

 

Place to start would be in Japan. Probably a turbo, possible twin is a good starting ground. Spoon race engine would also be a good place to start. 315 HP@11000RPM. I didnt say I knew how to do it. Im just saying nothing is impossible and with the right amount of $$$ it can be done.

 

why twin turbos? im talkin strait line racing, not race track..

id like to see an S2000 with an Aerocharger, yeh aerocharger not turbo charger.. also a built motor, haltech.. and 350+ to the wheels... how much do these cars wiegh? could the tranny and rear end hold up to 350+ hp?

 

twins because ive seen it done before. I cant remember how much pow it was making but it was alot.

I dont know if the stock drive train can handle the power, but I bet some trick Spoon race parts would work. They hold up to the rigours of racing so i would assume they would hold up here.

The trick is getting it down to the ground. I also left out the great equalizer. N2O

 

equal skilled drivers...no an s2000 cant beat an rx-7 or supra tt

 

ditto

ur gonna need 350+whp to beat a mildly modified one..

 

+ lots of torque. You can't drop the clutch at 5,000rpm when you have decent power.

 

thats why i think S2000 guys should use Aerochargers, they are expesive and there are no kits for em, but they spool wayyyyyy faster then regular turbochargers.. which would give that S2k some low end which it is starving for..

 

Yes, if you have enough money, you can make anything go fast. But I can see S2000 taking whole a lot of money to make it faster than RX7 or Supra esp if you want to beat modified ones. Well in straight line anyways.

 

Not stock for stock.

 

any car can beat any other car if u waste more money on it

 

Its right though it depends on the money, but if you spent $10K on each then the RX is still king. Supra has a massive HP advantage but weight too, even so just wind up the boost and your off.

 

Dollar-for-dollar, an S2K will not beat any of the above cars you mentioned in a straight line. I take it you mean stoplight racing? The S2K, like the ITR, is meant for road racing/autoxing, not straight-line racing. If you are considering buying one for that purpose, good luck wasting your money.

 

If I were buying a car for road racing, i would still buy a supra or RX7 over an S2k.. I was just curious as to how/if an S2k could be made faster then either of these cars in strait line..

The S2k is a cool car, and I am pondering the possibilty of buying one in the distant future.. Only because i know by that time most supras and Rx7's will be very high mileage and worn..

 

was it a red S2k w/ a veilside front end? if so thats my friend john..

 

cool, I gotta see that maxima run first hand.. Maybe we can set up a race with him and some turbo honda guys.. see how they match up..

 

thats odd what have u heard about him? Hes a real cool guy but I think him and Andi hate each other so maybe thats why u heard bad stuff about him

I wouldnt say im great friends, I wouldnt be invited to his birthday party or anything but I chill with him at the races and meets, and for a little while we had a car club and he was in it..

explain more on the "****" you have heard about him

 

OT

Knightsport, do you have some pics of your Supra?
I'm thinking about getting a Supra or a 95' RX-7 from Germany.
Still finding out how reliable they are through owner story's.

Cheers.

 

As a 3 time RX7 owner (also had a T66 RX7) I agree it will be hard work to get an S2k to be close. However, I am currently in the process of buying an S2000 - I think alot of the reason you don't see many 'fast' s2000's is demographically based - the S2000 is aimed at the more middle-aged buyer than any other honda.

I've talked to alot of people though, and the first thing I would be doing is having the engine built and the compression lowered. Speedcrafts turbo kit with a T60-1 turbo on a 9.8:1 compression engine should be good for around 10lbs of boost, which roughly equates to about 365rwhp (about 395bhp). On race gas you could well be at 400rwhp, which would give all but the most extreme cars a run for its money. The S2000 weighs only 2800lbs, which is still 250lbs over an RX7, but over 700lbs lighter than a Supra. With around 400rwhp, you could easily go 11's in the 1/4 mile, which would give all but single turbo Supras a run for their money. Top end though, you're in trouble - mostly because the Supras 6 speed doesn't have any overdrive gears, theyre all drive gears unlike the S2000 or RX7 which have 2 and 1 overdrive gear respectively.

Unfortunately I can't stand the build quality of the RX7, as well as the numerous small mechanical issues I continuosly have - this is my 3rd Rx7 in 6 years, and I've done as many mods and reliability upgrades as is humanly possible (even had the entire interior redone by Carcraft), and I'm still craving something a bit more 'sturdy' and reliable. I think I'm going to pick the S2000 over the Supra...getting a bit old for the riceboy kind of bodykitted Supra look

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94 RX7 R2
429 rwhp/387 lb/ft
11.36 @ 119.4