basically....my friend has a RSX Type-S and he miss-shifted....he doesnt have a HT acct. so im helping him out...i hit the searched button several times and couldnt find a post for miss-shifts. i was hoping that some GENEROUS soul on HT would either impart their VAST know-how or give me some better words to search with...anywayz...thx for those who reply....plz dont flame me...be helpful

ps.. i've seen a post here b4 that had this kind of information....cant find it anymore....looked in the RSX forums....then skimmed the tech forums....hit the search button on miss-shifts....blown motor....the like....

 

so he miss-shifted and then what?...............your not giving any detailes as to what you are looking for?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=722069
this might help similar situation.

 

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well...he's telling me he noticed it immediately and stepped down on the clutch right away...he's also telling me he didnt pass the 9g's in rev but he failed the "dollar test". the exhaust is sucking in air so its most likely a bent valve...possibly pistons too? well....the question at stake is....will the dealer replace it? for free that is...cuz my friend juss bought his car around 2 weeks ago....hes hoping the dealership will not tax him....and...have you guyz heard of people walking out of dealerships with brand new RSXs when they miss-shifted? i have heard rumors...thx for posting

 

yea more info, did he do like a 5th to 3rd way over rev, valve train noise, knocking, whats wrong with miss shifting it happens to everyone once and a while. If you feel that something got messed up, then do a compression test.

 

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this might help similar situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thx for the link

 

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he did the classic 3rd to 2nd trying to get to 4th...it seems that a LOT of people have been having this problem...his car does not idle like it use to anymore...feels really rough...but i havent driven it yet...about to leave for a quick test drive right now

 

up up up and away for some more info...thx for the people that have been posting...mainly...im looking for info regarding RPM being logged into the ecu....something like "over-rev code" where excessive RPMs are burned into the ecu? is that true? and...i need info on how to "sweet talk" the dealership into fixing my friends car for free....it has warranty and only 2 weeks old

 

i need help...plz feed info!

 

Dealerships aren't stupid. As soon as you bring the car in, they will suspect abuse. They will probably tear it down, but if they find bent valves or some evidence of abuse (which they will), you will pay the labor for them taking it apart.

Don't try to screw the dealership, or you'll just get screwed even worse yourself.

 

Sure sounds like bent valves to me....

Just me experienced opinion though...

 

yup that will usually happen when you mis-shift!

 

still under warrenty? take that **** back to teh dealer

 

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yup....has 617 miles on it...and 2 weeks old...i hear the dealership can hook the ecu up to a computer and upload data...data like REVs over 10k....wondering if the dealership fix it (aka...covered by dealership) or its outta the pocket expense

 

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yup....has 617 miles on it...and 2 weeks old...i hear the dealership can hook the ecu up to a computer and upload data...data like REVs over 10k....wondering if the dealership fix it (aka...covered by dealership) or its outta the pocket expense</TD></TR></TABLE>

if they determine it to be the drivers fault, which they will, than its going to come out of your friends pocket. dealers offer a warranty on parts and workmanship not on whether it can take poor driving and unnecessary abuse.

 

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if they determine it to be the drivers fault, which they will, than its going to come out of your friends pocket. dealers offer a warranty on parts and workmanship not on whether it can take poor driving and unnecessary abuse.</TD></TR></TABLE>
went to the dealership yesterday and talked to the them....my friend basically told them that he miss-shifted and they told us that ACURA has helped people in the past....even though it was driver fault...so...we're waiting for their answer

 

Only 600 miles on it, and you're already redlining it???

People these days... Besides the fact that you're buddy miss-shifted, he's already abusing it by pushing it too far in the break-in stage. IMO, he deserves to get raped by the dealership.

 

man i work for acura and ive seen alot of those but ive seen motors being replaced cuz they shot the rod right out the side of the block. seen a valve get swallowed into the piston. no offense you guys who do that **** to a brand new car are real ******** and not very smart. ive seen a rsx type s get 2 motors within 3 months. o yea and the ecu does have a blk box that records the last thing that happened wit the car. and acura is not to bright when they warrenty this stuff. your friend should be lucky

 

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People these days... Besides the fact that you're buddy miss-shifted, he's already abusing it by pushing it too far in the break-in stage. IMO, he deserves to get raped by the dealership.</TD></TR></TABLE>

......hey man....mah friend is suffering enuff...he doesnt need criticism at this point...we're looking for advice not flaming....goto kills for that
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it seems that the guy at acura is willing to help my friend...crossing my fingers and hoping for the best

 

reason y acura is helping him out is because acura doesnt want any lawsuits saying that acura is not covering the warrenty for the fault of the driver

 

One of my friends did the same thing. The first time acura replaced it under warrandy, the second time they did not and he had a shop around us do a K24 bottom end with a RSX-S head. Then the oil pump went out on that and he's back to the stock motor. I'm not sure what the hell he's doing to his car, but it seems the new K-Series motors Don't take abuse too well.

 

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More info pls.
-PHiZ

 

hey phiz sorry for not giving more info. the ecus in the rsx type s has a kinda like a blk box in it. it monitors and records everything that the engine is doing time date what rpm it was in. from the time and day it was test driven to the time and day it comes in for something liek what this guy did mishshitfing at a high rpm specially wit a car that didnt even break a thousand miles yet.
thats what i meant hope that clears it up a lil

 

Well it will not have enough memory to record the entire life of the car, what would be more common would be for it to have a circular buffer, where it records for say, one day, and then overwrites itself....

And is it a seperate box, or is it internal to the ecu. I don't suppose removing power from the ecu will erase it, because it is conceivable that power could be lost during an accident.

So I wonder if you could just drive it after an accident until the memory "rolled over", or if it is resettable with a scan tool, or something. Hrm, interesting.

I read an article recently about this kind of information starting to be used in legal cases, to determine fault.

http://science.slashdot.org/ar...l?tid=
http://slashdot.org/articles/0...d=126
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/23/2334251.shtml

-PHiZ

 

no its not external its internal built into the ecu. and im sure it will save itself if the ecu was discconected. it is sum crash ****. i think they call it the drive record or the freeze data. wave of the future