Hey guys

Now i know that koni yellows are pretty much, hands down, the best shocks money can buy. However, i've heard numerous good things about the agx's, and the price is definatly more lucrative. Im lookin to lower my SH within the next few months, and i wanna know if shelling out the extra money for koni's is neccesary or if the AGX's will do just fine. Btw, i plan on using H&R sports with either set of shocks. I want some opinions/experiances from you guys. Thanks in advance.

 

I had agxs on mine and friends cars, lowered for a few years, great shocks
yellows are the **** but the price is up there.

 

I depends on where/how you're going to drive the car.

I have high hopes for my Illuminas...

 

Well, i wanna try auto-x at least once, but other than that it will just be aggressive daily-driving and the occasional mountain road rips.

 

IMO i vote for the konis. altho go for externally adjustable ones if you can get them. they handle serious abuse.

 

The AGX's match up very nicely with H&R Sports. I've been riding on the combo for about 30,000 miles now, very satisfied.

 

I've had AGX's for about 35k now and I have to say for the money they are hard to beat. They held up fine to a season of autox and I am leaving them on this season too. When they go, I will replace them with Koni Yellows but I don't regret buying them one bit.

Cheers,
Sean

 

The price difference between the AGXs and the Yellows will pay for itself over time. The Yellows are fully adjustable (height and stiffness). They also have a warranty on them unlike the AGXs whose warranty is invalid with a drop below 1.5" (correct me if I'm wrong someone).

I was opting for AGXs before I bought my Yellows mainly because of $$ (poor college student) but now that I have them, I love them to death. I say go for the Konis and don't look back.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daLixz25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The price difference between the AGXs and the Yellows will pay for itself over time. The Yellows are fully adjustable (height and stiffness). They also have a warranty on them unlike the AGXs whose warranty is invalid with a drop below 1.5" (correct me if I'm wrong someone).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, i guess i really am a suspension newb, i didnt know you could adjust stiffness AND height with the yellows. I have a few questions:

1. What's the warrenty like on the yellows? Lifetime? 5 year?

2. What's the life expectancy for the yellows?

3. Can they be rebuilt once they have been blown?

Thanks for all the opinions guys.

 

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Wow, i guess i really am a suspension newb, i didnt know you could adjust stiffness AND height with the yellows. I have a few questions:

1. What's the warrenty like on the yellows? Lifetime? 5 year?

2. What's the life expectancy for the yellows?

3. Can they be rebuilt once they have been blown?

Thanks for all the opinions guys.

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1. lifetime
2. put it this way, I hit a curb a month ago. I hit the curb with all the impact being absorbed by one wheel. I totaled my hatch in the process. I have the same suspension on another hatch and the yellows feel good as new
3. most certainly can

 

Koni are lifetime warranty?!
hummmmmmmm.
Looking more tempting, but dam the price is so high.
What is the warranty on the AGX?

 

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hummmmmmmm.
Looking more tempting, but dam the price is so high.
What is the warranty on the AGX?</TD></TR></TABLE>

AGX's have a lifetime warranty with drops up to 1.5"

 

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Wow, i guess i really am a suspension newb, i didnt know you could adjust stiffness AND height with the yellows. I have a few questions:
3. Can they be rebuilt once they have been blown?
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Koni, or any shock for that matter is NOT height adjustable. Ride height is controlled by the springs and has nothing to do with the shocks. daLixz25
is wrong.

Yes, they can be rebuilt, and it will cost you almost as much as a new set plus you lose use of your car until you get them back. For what AGX's cost, it's just easier to buy new ones. They will last 2+ years easily.

Take the money you saved and attend a driving school, as that will make more of a difference than hardware ever will.

Cheers,
Sean

 

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Yes, they can be rebuilt, and it will cost you almost as much as a new set plus you lose use of your car until you get them back. For what AGX's cost, it's just easier to buy new ones. They will last 2+ years easily.
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I had agx's, i loved them although I did have my car slammed pretty good, and the agx's lasted like 1 summer

 

what about agx vs blues ?

 

Every set of Koni Yellows I've installed have leaked after three or four months of use. The plastic dial that they provide to change shock setting will strip the first time you use it too...why they don't just give a metal key is beyond me.

I've currently got KYB AGX's on my hatchback and I wouldn't have any other shock. They adjust in about one second, they have excellent response and they're lasting a long time so far.

If you're looking for some insane autocross setup or something, you'll have better results with a full coilover strut.

 

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No, he is right. Koni Yellows are height adjustable on installation, depending on what position you set the C-clip.

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hank the retard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it will just be aggressive daily-driving and the occasional mountain road rips.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anywho, once the installtation is performed, do you have to remove the shocks again in order to move the c-clip or is it able to be adjusted while the shocks are on the car? Thanks.

 

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If you're looking for some insane autocross setup or something, you'll have better results with a full coilover strut.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you sir, are wrong. a koni/GC set-up will outperform any full coil-over set-up in the same price range. Especially when you consider the versatility of the koni. You can have them shortened, revalved, rebuilt, converted from single adjustable to double adjustable, and with the proper SPSS valving a koni sport (yellow) can handle as high as 1000 lb/in springs.

I have seen full coil-over setups dyno'd that are supposed to be 24 position adjustable and all that jazz, the result was nothing. No change in the graph relative to the position of the adjustment on the shock.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Every set of Koni Yellows I've installed have leaked after three or four months of use. The plastic dial that they provide to change shock setting will strip the first time you use it too...why they don't just give a metal key is beyond me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is par for the course with koni's. does that leak mean the shock is blown? not at all. happens all the time. maybe you should invest some time and sit down and learn what is really going on inside a set of dampers.

anyway, to answer the original question. You'll be happy with whatever shock you choose, but remember that if you plan on running your car 'slammed' you will be compromising both shocks. Both the AGX and Koni's are designed to work best within an inch of stock ride height. Something to keep in mind. Really all that is important is that you have enough bump travel up front.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carl_aka_carlos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyway, to answer the original question. You'll be happy with whatever shock you choose, but remember that if you plan on running your car 'slammed' you will be compromising both shocks. Both the AGX and Koni's are designed to work best within an inch of stock ride height. Something to keep in mind. Really all that is important is that you have enough bump travel up front.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I plan on running H&R sports with either shock setup. Im just concerned about the life of the shocks. Ill shell out the money for koni's if they last like, 3-5 years, but anything under i dont think i could afford shocks every other year. What do you think? Thanks for all the replies.

 

anybody know the average lifespan of either koni yellows or kyb agx's?

 

I take it you haven't seen nor used the SP3 version of the Koni Yellow which have 5 perch settings. You can adjust the ride height in 5 increments of 10mm. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I'd like to get some KYB AGX's cheap and have a lifetime warranty

 

i jumped my car off the road goin around a turn doing 60mph, jumped a 4 foot ditch, took out a barbwire fence, and the AGX's and GroundControls still work perfectly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daLixz25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I take it you haven't seen nor used the SP3 version of the Koni Yellow which have 5 perch settings. You can adjust the ride height in 5 increments of 10mm. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had not heard about the SP3's. Looks like I stand corrected. Those wacky engineers will come up with anything.

It would seem to me that using that method to adjust the height of your entails taking the shock out of the car. If that's the case then they are, to me at least, height adjustible and at the same time not height adjustible. It's to much of a pain in the *** to make it worthwhile. That is screaming of marketing gimmick to me, why not just get GC's?

Cheers,
Sean