i have had two R's in the past, now i want another. i am thinking of building my own from an integra rs. i have looked at a true type R's, but i think i can build an rs cheaper. i know it will never be a real R, but it could be close.

what are your thoughts?

what was the last year the rs was produced?

thanks in advance...

 

:red alert - sheilds up!!:

 

just dont put R stickers on it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just dont put R stickers on it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly...it wont be an R, but you could build a more competent car in all aspects from the ground up if you wanted...its your call.

 

I think the RS has certain advantage.. IE no ABS (which is a preference thing)

also the price tag. Plus you just build the motor and add the tranny you want.

not so many worries with theft .. still some, but not as many.

plus you get side moulding.. which adds a bit of protection from dings.


I am personally searching for a 96+ white integra RS 5spd...

its a lot harder to find on than you think!

 

Im in the process of building one right now cost so far is $3500 for the car, $4100 for an r swap, $ 800 for interior, $ 1300 for the 5 lug conversion. Here's the catch you can sell your rs motor swap and old suspension to offset on the cost

 

in that case, you are only having the power aspect of the R. Fine for drag and street,

 

Would take a lot of work and $ to do right... It is up to you, but IMO not worth it... Just get an old/rebuilt R for cheap

 

no matter what you do a R is a R and a RS is a RS but thats just me

 

I PROMISE NO TYPE R DECALS....

on my 98 i took the decals off, and on the y2k black i was about to remove them before i sold it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B17AGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im in the process of building one right now cost so far is $3500 for the car, $4100 for an r swap, $ 800 for interior, $ 1300 for the 5 lug conversion. Here's the catch you can sell your rs motor swap and old suspension to offset on the cost</TD></TR></TABLE>

funny.. i'm in for just a bit more than that on the ITR I've reassembled.. and there are parts on the ITR that an RS doesn't have..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by houston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think the RS has certain advantage.. IE no ABS (which is a preference thing)</TD></TR></TABLE>

what is with all the ABS removal, not wanting, etc going on this week.. bizarre.. unless you're a drag racer and simply don't need ABS, I see no reason why anyone would want to take it out..

 

i am not into the drag racing thing anymore, that was my mitsubishi eclipse phase. i am now more into the handling phase.

p.s does anyone know the last year the rs was made?

 

Im sure you are aware of this but an RS, modified with Itr part/changeover will never be worth close to the same as a true Itr. It's not a wise investement as far as a resale value. I mean **** cars in general aren't a good investment, but if you have the $ and want to do this for yourself, and dont mind the hard work it will take the go for it.

 

The Rs wont be the R because of the chassis. It wont handle as well as the R either.

 

98 was the last year i saw them at the lot.

my old rs, i bought for $3500 salvage, sold the rs swap for $2500, 4whl disk for $300, front and rear seats for $350.
i would sudgest 94-95 RS they are the cheapest in price and since you are changing things who really cares for the milage.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mstewar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is with all the ABS removal, not wanting, etc going on this week.. bizarre.. unless you're a drag racer and simply don't need ABS, I see no reason why anyone would want to take it out..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not that this is the reason.. but.. some race series/classes require removal of ABS. NASA Pro racing doesn't, SCCA IT does. Not really relevent for the ITR though, but that is a reason I'd remove it from a car. For a street car/hpde car/etc i'd leave it.

99 was the last year of the RS I believe. Might have been 98 as stated above though.. not really sure.

 

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Not that this is the reason.. but.. some race series/classes require removal of ABS. NASA Pro racing doesn't, SCCA IT does. Not really relevent for the ITR though, but that is a reason I'd remove it from a car. For a street car/hpde car/etc i'd leave it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah.. i kinda was ignoring the higher racing series' that require it's removal.. like the aforementioned World Challenge, etc..

 

I'm sure after owning 2 other R's, cmdr knows plenty about the differences between the cars. Anyway, let's remember that most hondas in general have great platforms with which to build from right from the factory. Not everyone in this forum actually owns an R but I bet some have other modified integras or civics that will out handle most of the R's here.

My point is he's not really trying to make an R copy, just another great handling car. I say go for it if the price is right, like mstewar said, hes into his R about the same as you expect to build. I'm in the same boat with my 97. I think you have a better chance of finding an R shell than an rs (if you're looking for a bare shell that is). Good luck.

to car rebuilders.

 

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98 was the last year of the RS.

 

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98 was the last year of the RS.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LIAR!

j/k

 

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definitely.. no matter what trim level shell you buy!

 

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definitely.. no matter what trim level shell you buy!</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18c1995 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Rs wont be the R because of the chassis. It wont handle as well as the R either.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow your pretty educated thats the smartest thing i've heard all day.

you are pretty damn ignorrant but I guess thats the typical R owner response.

I for one have owned a R and had to sell it and now own a rs It has the the 5 lug conversion and all the micelaneous bars. and i'm on tein RA's with azenis. my car also weighs 2300lbs and i've done nothing to reduce that weight full interior and everything.

now if you would of said that because the rs doesn't have abs and the r does so it must be better that would of been ok but just that a rs can never handle as good as a r is a pretty stupid statment.

 

from the ITRCA's spotter's guide:

Body/Chassis/Suspension:

Larger brakes (11.1 inch front, 10.2 inch rear)
Revised lighter ABS system
5 lug Hubs
15x6 Alloy wheels
Bridgestone RE-010 tires
New front air dam
Larger rear spoiler
Short throw transmission with shorter gears
Front shock tower bar
Two rear stabilizer bars
- There is really only one rear stabilizer bar.
The other bar, which was added for the ITR only,
is actually a lower suspension brace - it has no
dynamic suspension interaction other than to help
prevent chassis flex
Stiffened suspension
Little over a 1/2 inch (15mm) lower ride height
Faux Carbon Fiber instrument panel (Center Console in 2000/2001)
Deep bolstered, race-inspired seats
Subtraction of 147 lbs (No sunroof, A/C, sound deadening material)
Only offered in White until 2000 then Yellow and Black were also offered
No protective side moldings

that's the main differences.. some of that can be put on an RS.. and, well, some can't..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC-2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow your pretty educated thats the smartest thing i've heard all day.

you are pretty damn ignorrant but I guess thats the typical R owner response.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What about the name b18c1995 makes you think he is an ITR owner?