Has anyone found a good method of "sensing" whether an integra is in neutral? I know some alarm installers can do this. I was thinking some sort of optical or magnetic switch on the shift linkage somewhere.

I am just weary of accidentally leaving my car in gear and remote starting the car...

Dustin

 

Wouldnt the car just stall if you started it, clutch pedal out, and in gear? It might lurch forward a foot or two, which could suck, if you were say parked right next to a wall.
Just curious, but how is the clutch pedal switch overridden?
Sorry I can't help you rig up a safety catch, but there has got to be a way....
Guys???

 

The starter motor is very powerful, and the stupid alarm tries three times to start the car. The starter is definately powerful enough to make my front bumper cover really ugly.

The clutch switch gives ground to the starter kill relay. I just tapped the alarm starter wire AFTER the relay so it does not matter whether the clutch is in. The clutch switch still works when starting the car w/ the key though.

Dustin

 

Yeah, mine does that too. I had an auto originally, converted to 5-speed so my remote start is still there. I've tried it and my car lurches like 3 inches forward every time the car tries to start. It "stalls" but then tries again, I haven't seen how long it goes....but it went at least 5 times when I saw it.

I just always use the handbrake now and keep the car in neutral, and rarely use the remote start anyway. Just have to watch out for wiseass friends who take my keys and remote start the thing.

 

dustin- dont you have to leave the car in neutral when the turbo timer is on and counting down anyway?

 

Yes, I do. I am really good about never leaving the car in gear anyways. I am just worried about accidentally knocking the car into gear while the car is off, or having someone play a funny trick on me.

My friend jeremy has a '91 and he never leaves his car in gear... but he was working on his car at like 3am and accidentally knocked the shifter into 4th while messing with something inside the car. In the morning he wanted to warm the car up and heard THUD. He went out, and his WW front bumper was destroyed, his dryer was pushed into the sheetrock of the garage, and the dryer itself no longer worked. This happened about 2 months ago.

Dustin

 

I have one by Clifford and if the car is in gear it won't start. The car will only start if the car is in neutral.

Dont worry.

 

Dustin,

Just be careful. i once starrted my freshly painted nissan p/u. it started drviin slowly(bucking actually) but went about 10 feet into another car. My friend also started his car three times without good results
1. had car valet parked, gave dude $10 to park in neutral, came out trying to show off in front of girls( this is like 6-7 years ago when it was new and extra cool to have) and started car into another.
2. was installing radio in a garage adn had to move car real quick for someone, started car right into large tool chest and cabinets.....
3. WORST OF ALL, started car as he was about to get in. he is between car and a wall. car lurches misses him, he tries jumping out of way, lurches again, breaks leg, he cant move is trown on hood, car tries starting again and breaks leg again. a few of us watch in horror, it was nasty, he was in bed about a month.....

END of story

 

wow car luched in 4th... **** i cant even get the car to move with the motor while at a dead stop in 4th....

 

SOrry i thought he was talking to me....misunderstood.


[Modified by lsinteg, 10:36 AM 10/1/2001]

 

If a car is in any gear it will lurch forward a little.
To overeride the clutch, just look at the linkage at the top of the clutch pedal. There are two wires that go into the top of the pedal. When you push the pedal all the way in, in the Integra,it pushes a little button that completes a groundng circuit that enables your car to start. With a polarity tester, not a test light cause its a negative circuit, test for these two wires. Then just link them together.

 

If you link the wires together ALL the time, then your car will start w/ the key even if the clutch is not in (not good). The only other way to do it with the clutch switch is to wire a relay to short the clutch switch to ground when the car is starting. This is not very elegant.

The easiest way is how I explained above.... tap into the (+) wire after the starter kill relay (located almost directly behind the sunroof control switch area).

Dustin

 

Holy crap, I cant believe you told that story!! Talk about embarrassing.

BTW, it jumped a good 2 feet. I was lucky to get to it in time before it tried to start itself again, it could've been alot worse.

 

Yeah remote start in a 5 speed is just a bad idea. You dont even have to be the one to leave it in gear......my boss took his Integra to get the windows tinted, he put the car in valet while it was in there. Well when he came out he went to use the remote to turn off valet mode and apparently didnt hit one of the buttons on his Clifford remote enought times cause he accidently remote started it over a curb and into a tree. Took like 8 guys to get the car off the curb. I used to have it on my old car (5 speed Civic) and I was lucky enough to never remote start it into anything. I quit while i was ahead and didnt put it on the Teg.

 

i just got a compustar alarm/starter hooked up the other day.
B4 leaving the car.. i take out the keys teh car is still running then pull the ebrake.. leaev the car and it shuts off.... then i manual arm it(i hate auto arming)
i always have my car in neutral so its all good... although if i put it in a gear the car can still start.... its all activated by the e brake if the e brake is not up it wont start...
i think it just takes getting used to.... being i always leave my car in neutral i dont see this as a problem unless i get work done on my car and some morons dont listen

oh ya i got my power windows hooked up to the remote to.. its fukn cool

 

Yeah, I'd say about 99% of the time I park the same way...in neutral, e-brake up.

The 1% of times I'll leave it in gear (along with the e-brake) are times that I'm parked on a steep hill. Those times I almost always forget it's in gear and let the clutch out immediately after it's started. *Lurch* stall...embarassed.

Then with my CRX, it didn't have the clutch switch so I just turn the key. Too much for me to remember not to do thank you.

Also, if you don't wire like Dustin, you'll also defeat the cruise control override whenever you tap your clutch.

 

cry. I did not know you even posted on here?

 

hahaha. That's the funniest thing I've read in a while! It's only funny after the fact. Hmm, I heard that the remote start is like shooting yourself in the foot: the car theives just have to find the remote wire and start the car without having to screw with the column.

-C

 

i agree with sponge, you could wire up a magnetic switch or maybe a microswitch that grounds when the car is in 1st. We're toying with a similar idea for N2O safeguards so that you can't use the nitrous while in 1st gear.
good luck and let me know if you decide to try it out.

 

Think smart and put a TOGGLE SWITCH on the ground wire to the remote start.

1st accident:
I was adjusting the proximity sensor under center console and hit the car in third gear by accident at night. In the morning remote started my car from apt. to warm it up. POW!~! I hit my friends 2000 accord v6 cp Luckily my car was sooo low my front hood and bumper hit his tow hook in the rear. Uno damage to his car. Unfortunately I did not witness the accident. $1000 damage to hood, headlights, bumper

2nd accident:
Warming my car at my parents house. This time I thought I would be clever and watch the car start from inside. I had backed my car backwards in front of the garage. Once again I thought I left it out of gear. BIG MISTAKE. This time I witnessed my car leap into my closed garage and hit a humongous tool box. I hit the remote start button again to stop it from restarting. Fotunately, it only costed me $50 to buff out the scratches. BUT $800 for a new garage.

Moral of the story. PUT a switch to the remote start so you can turn the remote start on and off. Many installers are too lazy to put one in. I always turn mine off when a friend borrows the car or the car is being worked on.

I regret installing my remote start on my manual. think about it!~!~

Viper 550 ------------------------------------------------------> $350 installed
new hood, bumper, headlights ~~~~> $1000 cash
new garage door and buff ~~~~~~~> $850

I spent more fixing things than modding my car!~!~!


[Modified by tuphatt, 12:24 PM 10/1/2001]

 

I think I am going to try to fabricate some sort of switch above the shifter to disconnect the starter wire. I'll let everyone know what I come up with.

Dustin

 

my viper is wired so it will only do it when the car is in neutral

 

Do explain how.

Dustin

 

Sounds like something I'd like to know...

 

Its only triggered when its in reverse.