i have a 98 ex with dc headers and a hks super dragger on it and was wondering how much of a gain in horsepower im looking at it i add an intake, skunk2 intake manifold, cam gear, camshaft, and pulleys. is it even worth it? i have limited budget and want to at least make some power out of my car. thanks

 

No, going all motor on a d16 is $$$ for a decent gain. Turbo it or go for a engine swap.

 

Budget= NITROUS

 

Whether or not it is worth it depends on how much power you want to make. If you are just doing bolt-ons, then I don't know that I would bother with the d-series. However, if you do some headwork and add a cam, then you can have some fun

 

Maybe 10-20WHP.

 

Think you will see better gains and fitment with a Edelbrock intake manifold than a Skunk one.

 

With all of the money you'd spend on buying all that ****...i'd just look for a used greddy kit...much more cost effective

 

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I don't know man, i put my skunk2 IM in the other night and it fits GREAT there is room all over that place, i got a d16y8 and i love the IM it's a nice product

 

put a 4.9 final drive in that tranny!

 

the edelbrock manifold was dynoed at 4 to 5 whp Tabias so I think it does give some more gains than your manifold. I would look into getting that fpr though.

 

get a used greddy turbo kit or..a new one! it would be lots fun boosting around! its worth the money i would say!

 

sohc horsepower gain... convert to dohc... you know the saying, two cams are better then one

 

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agreed greddy kits only cost around 1500 shipped brand new, for about 50 whp+, now a days and you can always upgrade them later plus boOost is fun plus it makes cool sounds y0

you'd probably spend that much for a n/a setup and get maybe 15whp

 

I gave up on my D series and I'm saving up for my K20a

 

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D series + Turbo kit = cheaper and just as fast as K20a, not to mention its not a wiring nightmare

 

yeah

 

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You, sir, are a moron. The very first Civic S Mugen ever got its hands on was built with Weber carbs and put down 167 to the wheels....I do have a B20/Vtec....but I loved my D16z6....they have awesome potential if you build them correctly.
EDIT: When I say "built" I meant BUILT....AND it had weber carbs.

 

overall id say to turbo the d16. greddy kit is hard to pass up for the money. if u decide to go n/a, it can be done for a reasonable amount by using different oem pistons to raise c/r, get a reasonable cam like zex or something and some other stuff(this is assuming you already have bolt ons).

 

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You, sir, are a moron. The very first Civic S Mugen ever got its hands on was built with Weber carbs and put down 167 to the wheels....I do have a B20/Vtec....but I loved my D16z6....they have awesome potential if you build them correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

first of all i don't have an sir ( work on B20 Vtec )
second, i don't give a F_ _ _ what mugen first started with, 167 to the wheels is not bad but if your B20 is done right it can be putting out 200-210 to the wheels

so bottom line is dohc is better than sohc and it is actually wroth spending money on.

does the type r have one cam or two?
does spoon use sohc or dohc?
to me its a no brainer don't waste money on sohc

 

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doubt it. its also about $100 more

 

Paid $275 for my edelbrock IM. I believe that Jegs was selling them for about $309.

 

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first of all i don't have an sir ( work on B20 Vtec )
second, i don't give a F_ _ _ what mugen first started with, 167 to the wheels is not bad but if your B20 is done right it can be putting out 200-210 to the wheels
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Okay, so for more money you can make more power..no brainer.
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so bottom line is dohc is better than sohc and it is actually wroth spending money on.
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And now you win the ignorant post of the thread award. Sohc has potential just like the DOHC. It is cheaper, parts are cheaper and blocks are a dime a dozen. For what I spent on my setup, I PROMISE there are no DOHC setups in the same car, same driver, etc that will keep up with me. Granted I don't have that much more room to upgrade, but for a daily driver, high 13s is just fine with me.

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does the type r have one cam or two?
does spoon use sohc or dohc?
to me its a no brainer don't waste money on sohc </TD></TR></TABLE>

Mugen started out with the SOHCs. I can't believe you even tryed to bring Spoon into this. Spoon takes OEM parts and reuses them. Spoon = waste of money, just like Mugen. The Type R has 2 cams, and is more expensive. It depends on your budget.

 

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first of all i don't have an sir ( work on B20 Vtec )
second, i don't give a F_ _ _ what mugen first started with, 167 to the wheels is not bad but if your B20 is done right it can be putting out 200-210 to the wheels

so bottom line is dohc is better than sohc and it is actually wroth spending money on.

does the type r have one cam or two?
does spoon use sohc or dohc?
to me its a no brainer don't waste money on sohc </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea = ignorant dumbass

 

if u want to be different go with the D series buildup, but need sum good headwork save ur money and check exospeeds products

 

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doubt it. its also about $100 more</TD></TR></TABLE>
every dyno chart ive seen had more gains come from the edlebrock manifold than the skunk2