I recently bought my '01 ITR, and only one of the 3 keys will start the car. The second "master" key and the "valet" key were on the same key ring when I bought it (a no-no according to the manual), and now, after separating them, neither one will start the car. Can the dealer re-program them? (Yes, I'll call tomorrow and ask, but I'm curious now. )

 

Yes, as long as the keys are immobilizer keys. Be prepared to demonstate that the car belongs to you-registration and DL.

 

yes the keys can be reprogrammed...

did the R you bought have a theft attempt? aftermarket ecu?

 

Not that I know of...

The one key works just fine, but my wife was going to drive the car this evening, and she had the other key. It wouldn't start. The key icon flashes with it and also with the valet key. In the manual, it says not to put the keys on the same key ring, but these were when I got them. I'm guessing that over time, it somehow degraded whatever's in there???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bfitz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not that I know of...

The one key works just fine, but my wife was going to drive the car this evening, and she had the other key. It wouldn't start. The key icon flashes with it and also with the valet key. In the manual, it says not to put the keys on the same key ring, but these were when I got them. I'm guessing that over time, it somehow degraded whatever's in there???</TD></TR></TABLE>it didint work because your wife was going to use the R, dont u no that it has a wife theft system too never ever ever let your wife use the car its a good thing it worked j/k thay can reprograme it but u will have to show proof that u own the car.

 

You should have the code for the key. All you need is to tell the dealer the code of the key you have, kind of like the radio code.

 

His wife did finish second at Solo II Nationals last year in STSL so maybe in this case we will let the wife thing slide

Albino Dragon who is preparing himself to get beat by a lady driver in a stock ITR this year!!!

 

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The four digit key code is for cutting new keys. The immobilizer is a completely different matter. The PGM-FI tester is used to reprogram the PCM to recognize the keys that you have. Each key has a transponder in it with a unique electronic signature.

 

just follow the procedure oputlined in the helms for programming enw keyhs. takes like 30 seconds.

 

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Some strange/st00pid customers still do not understand why we do this.

"Why I got to show my DL? It's my car!"
"Maam, I need to keep a paper trail of all keys made and program. It's Acura's policy. I do not make policies here."
"Well I'll go elsewhere."

LoL. Riight. Home depot doesn't program keys btw.

 

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agree

 

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Can you tell me where to find this procedure in the Helms manual or post directions? I can't find it. Are you sure this is possible without going to the dealer?

 

go to the dealer to take care of the keys...it should be covered under warranty.!

 

For the archives...

The dealer was unable to reprogram my keys. The guy tried, but it kept coming up with an error. He was also unable to read the keys with the programmer. Something must have happened to them...maybe it was being on the same key ring...maybe it was something else.

I ended up buying a new key that they programmed to match. $40 later, I have a spare key that actually starts the car.

 

They couldnt program the key cause they were probably T5 blanks. Look on the key itself and see. T5 blanks are keys with copied immobilizer codes from an original key. The reason why they worked when they were all together is because the good key was close enough to the immobilizer pickup sensor that it sensed the correct code was present. The PGM tester is used to program new keys only that are not T5 blanks. These keys have there own unique immobilizer codes and are not copies of others. I know all this cause I work as a technician for a Honda/Acura dealership.

 

Maybe I didn't understand, and am thus repeating what you said, but here goes:

The keys I had were not T5 blanks. I have every reason to believe that they were the original keys...one standard and one valet. The key they did end up programming was a T5 blank that they cut based on one of the non-working keys (because it was in better shape than the key I've been using).

 

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The keys I had were not T5 blanks. I have every reason to believe that they were the original keys...one standard and one valet. The key they did end up programming was a T5 blank that they cut based on one of the non-working keys (because it was in better shape than the key I've been using).</TD></TR></TABLE>

You cannot program a T5 blank with the tester. They have a special code reader that reads the old code from a good key and copies it to a T5 black key. They either cut a T5 black key and programmed it from the good working key or they cut a new original key and programmed it with the tester. T5 blacks and originals look the same, but T5 blanks have T5 stamped on the blade of the key.

 

Yes, they used the code reader to copy the code from my one good, original key to a T5 blank.

They were unable to read the codes from my non-working keys with the same code reader.

If I happen to lose the original, can they copy from the T5 blank to another T5 blank?

Thanks for helping to clear this up!

 

yes T5 to T5 is possible. As long as the T5 is working. They probably couldnt use the codes from the other keys cause they probably were never programmed in the first place and are "codeless".

 

yes they can be reprogrammed..the dealership will use a "pgm tester" to reprogram it.