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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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i know if u dont go with the oem spec for the oem s02 the 225/50/16 are = to a non-oem s02 which is 245/45/16. i dont have the money to get s02 or s03. what other tire choices do i have. there are yokohama avs es 100 that i was looking into, but there is a wait till febuary 29. anyone know of any good brands out there? i am not going to track this car, but i may do agressive driving here and there.

BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW
Dunlop SP Sport 8000
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 Asymmetrical
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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The 5000s are great all-season tires, they're sticky in the dry and bite through snow pretty well. A good choice if you drive your S2K in snowy climates.

The KDWs are great too but won't hold up well in the snow.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheGSRGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 5000s are great all-season tires, they're sticky in the dry and bite through snow pretty well. A good choice if you drive your S2K in snowy climates.

The KDWs are great too but won't hold up well in the snow.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you are referring to the Dunlop SP5000's please don't recommend this tire. horrible horrible tire. it chunks off, handles poorly and has a weak sidewall. sure they handle fine in snow and rain, but that is for the northern guys to argue about while driving a two seater convertible.

the KDW's are fine, but not as good as the OEM S02's nor the S03's.

if you don't have the money for the OEM S02's or S03's, make sure you don't complain about the handling degredation after you get anything else. depending on the tire, the sidewalls will be slightly weaker, and the treadwear rating will be much harder. so... go ahead with the ES100's, for the dollar, they are about an 80% tire for 60% of the cost.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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I had a set of SP5000s on my Integra GS-R and loved them. They wore down fairly fast but I knew that would happen. Chunking shouldn't happen to a street tire unless you're racing on it.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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I can't speak from personal experience, but I've heard from other owners about their personal experience. Go with the S02s. You WILL BE DISAPPOINTED with performance if you go with any of the tires mentioned above. Not to mention, you don't want to place any of the aforementioned tires in the rear if you have stock S02s on the front still.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheGSRGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a set of SP5000s on my Integra GS-R and loved them. They wore down fairly fast but I knew that would happen. Chunking shouldn't happen to a street tire unless you're racing on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The GSR might favor the SP5000's, this car will not. Heck, even a Miata will not favor the SP5000's. They are horrible, even for just spirited driving. If you really must go with a dunlop, go with the SP8000's, not 9000's, which have less of a contact patch for channeling water, but the SP8000's. But I don't recommend them at all.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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It seems that the two cheaper tires that people put on the S are the Yoko ES100's and the Kumho 712. You'll probably read mixed reviews on the 712's, but the ES100's seem to get pretty good feedback.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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there on back order for yoko es100 till feb 28, and kumho still seems like the only choice for the money that is supplied right now, what about falken fk451?
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eh2 to Ap1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there on back order for yoko es100 till feb 28, and kumho still seems like the only choice for the money that is supplied right now, what about falken fk451?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd wait if you can for the right tires. these are ~280 treadwear tires, which are a bit harder than the ES100's. even though they might carry the same treadwear rating, it varies brand by brand in how they rate their tires. and to give you some reference, the OEM S02's are rated at 160, r compounds such as the victo racers are at 40 and toyo ra-1's are at 60.

wait on the right tires, or spend the right dollars on the right OEM spec tires. this is a sports car and you really can't cheap out on the tires. if you cheap out on the tires, and then come back and buy some suspension components - your car will still suck. I mean that too. the tires are the first & last suspension component to make a difference since the tires are the only part of your car that actually makes contact to the ground.

/my two cents.

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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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Sounds like you're stretching yourself to be driving this car.

Anything less than OEM S-02s on stock rims or bigger, wider rims on S-03s pretty much rids the S2000 of its handling fun. Ricers talk about Teins providing amazing handling, but really, it's 90%+ tires.

With all that said, go with Yoko ES-100s if you really, really can't afford the Potenzas.

Good luck,
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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If you're willing to drive down to OC bro, I can get you some good prices on tires mounted and balanced. I do not make a dime out of it.

Bang for the buck, I'd get some Es100s. I think I can get So2s for roughly 145 or so out the door for the fronts. The rears are a little bit more.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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i think there out everywhere with es100, i was trying to get these, but the guy called places and didnt seem to find any, i remember lookign at tirerack, and it said it was on back order till feb 28. s02 are a little bit out of my budget, can u get any other price on other tires?
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KF_S2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't speak from personal experience, but I've heard from other owners about their personal experience. Go with the S02s. You WILL BE DISAPPOINTED with performance if you go with any of the tires mentioned above. Not to mention, you don't want to place any of the aforementioned tires in the rear if you have stock S02s on the front still.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am up in the Pac. Northwest and have all season tires on the rear with my stock S02' up front... Is this a bad idea??? We have been having some very shitty weather up here and was a bit scared of the S02's that were pretty bald anyway so I swapped them. Did I make a mistake?

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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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no flaming or nething but which ones are the SO2's or SO3's? who makes them are they stickY? aren't those the Bridgestones or whatever that makes em? are they really good? sorry haven't really heard much of em. what about the Ao32's? i have been really thinking about em but ppl say they wont last more than a month or so. is this true?
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Yes I can bro. Just PM me what you need and what you want to spend. I'm not in it for the money so I guarantee I'm not making anything off it other than looking good to my tire guy.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpoonSpecR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I am up in the Pac. Northwest and have all season tires on the rear with my stock S02' up front... Is this a bad idea??? We have been having some very shitty weather up here and was a bit scared of the S02's that were pretty bald anyway so I swapped them. Did I make a mistake?
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Yes, it will most likely negatively affect your handling. It will be exhibited more so with a S2000 IMO. With the rain you guys get in the PacNW I would get matching front tires.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bs2kB6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no flaming or nething but which ones are the SO2's or SO3's? who makes them are they stickY? aren't those the Bridgestones or whatever that makes em? are they really good? sorry haven't really heard much of em. what about the Ao32's? i have been really thinking about em but ppl say they wont last more than a month or so. is this true? </TD></TR></TABLE>

So2s are the dry weather version of So3s. So3s are more of an all weather version. Being in SoCal I feel I can get away with using So2s during the rainy season as long as I drive the safe speeds for the conditions. They are made by Bridgestones. If you get So2s for the stock wheels make sure you get the OEM so2s. If you get a different tire, you must get wider tires as WRS2k suggested. The So2s are much wider than what is listed on the tire.

I'm not sure about the Ao32s but tirerack.com has excellent reviews on tires.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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JMS JT's giving out some good advice on a silver platter, but I'll tell you straight up that you're playing with yourself by mix/matching tires.

You'd be better off going close-to-wear-bar S-02s than getting ghetto all-season tires in the back!

That's crazy, man. It's a high hp, lightweight, RWD car.

Get a set of matched tires now.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WRS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'd be better off going close-to-wear-bar S-02s than getting ghetto all-season tires in the back!

That's crazy, man. It's a high hp, lightweight, RWD car.

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I disagree! These feel a hundred times better in poor weather than "close-to-wear-bar " S02's... I was only curious if my tire choice had been poor for this car. The stock tires were like trash can lids on the back of a rocket ship in the snow. Granted my handling in dry weather is going to be affected but that is not my current concern.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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I'm telling you that you are making a mistake with your tire setup. Go ahead and post this on s2ki.com and see what kind of pleasant responses you will get.

I highly recommend that you match your tires at all FOUR corners.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WRS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm telling you that you are making a mistake with your tire setup. Go ahead and post this on s2ki.com and see what kind of pleasant responses you will get.

I highly recommend that you match your tires at all FOUR corners.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Better^ than for a response

Thank you for your input!
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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got set of Sumitomo 18" install on my volk ce28n passt 4 month now

Am in Oklahoma so Rain and Snow few month a yr...

I like them for now....

works good for me..

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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WRS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm telling you that you are making a mistake with your tire setup. Go ahead and post this on s2ki.com and see what kind of pleasant responses you will get.

I highly recommend that you match your tires at all FOUR corners.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. The current setup with the OEM S02's in the front and all-seasons on the rear (which are probably the wrong size anyways, right? I bet they are 225/50's!) is a far worse setup than having SP5000's on this car. (not to bash those tires - again - as a whole, but they are not meant for this car)
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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so s02 it is, for all four. it seems as if u dont go s02 you will be majorly upset. for the guy that recommended this, is this for an s2 that does see the track? or just normal driving?


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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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grammar, punctuation, and spelling.... please!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eh2 to Ap1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so s02 it is, for all four. it seems as if u dont go s02 you will be majorly upset. for the guy that recommended this, is this for an s2 that does see track, or just normal driving? that being said, i have not consider seeing the track, becauseof the cost of this car, im still in college, and insurance is killing me</TD></TR></TABLE>

The sentences are terrible. The structure makes it so hard to understand you.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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i could care less about my sentence structure. i have more important things to be concerned with.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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I went with the Khumo 712 to save money for my track rubber (Toyo RA-1) and they do not stand up to the SO2 peformance on a supercharged S2000. The rear can get really twitchy on a moderatly cold surface.
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