As the topic states, what sorta pieces do i need to take out and replace with non ABS stuff. i know the proportioning valve is a must, but which do you use? Civic? what other parts will i need to play with, since i have my intake manifold off, i figure now would be the time to remove all those lines Anyone done this?

 

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But Why?
Why would you want to?
An answer of sorts, would be a plasma cutter, I guees. LOL

 

1.)weight savings..
2.)I'm not a big fan on losing pedal feel and resistance.
3.)Weight savings (even tho its not alot)


Modified by 2k1_ITR_0736 at 1:50 AM 1/10/2004

 

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But Why?
Why would you want to?
An answer of sorts, would be a plasma cutter, I guees. LOL
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maybe you like driving around with a heavy *** tank. every bit adds up in the end. youll need the prop valve and brake lines from an non abs integra i think its the 94-95 rs.

 

well..i know you can turn off the abs. You drive a good mile with the e-brake about 1-2 clicks up...just enough to turn on the brake light in the cluster. Then you're AB will be shut off. To turn it back on..Just restart the car. i read that somewhere on one of these honda sites a few years back

 

so your not a big fan of not locking up the brakes and having control over steering?

ABS saved my *** twice

 

just get the lines off a rs integra

 

is there a way i can rebend the piping, rather than change out the entire brake line system?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=667338

in that thread- "itr206" rebent lines-- i'd pm him!

 

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Yes, you can do this, and it would probably be easier.

I looked into it breifly for my and for the DA, you basically need an non-abs doner car. That was enough to scare me away.

 

this would be rediculous to do, but :
cut the power to the abs system located next to the battery under the hood.
cut the speed sensor wires for each tire located at the suspension.
take out your cluster, and remove the ABS light from the rear,
and then you wont have abs anymore.

just a question, why dont you want your abs anymore? in my opinion, you should def keep it!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IVI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this would be rediculous to do, but :
cut the power to the abs system located next to the battery under the hood.
cut the speed sensor wires for each tire located at the suspension.
take out your cluster, and remove the ABS light from the rear,
and then you wont have abs anymore.

just a question, why dont you want your abs anymore? in my opinion, you should def keep it!
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*sarcasticly* "What's wrong with you man, don't you know that by removing my abs, I can make my slow-azz tank car, which can't get out of it's own way, 12.7lbs lighter and then I can rocket into hyper-space at speeds approaching that of the starship Booby-prise!!" LOL

 

well when you autocross alot, weight savings are a big deal... maybe you dont understand that

 

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IMO weight reduction in autocross isn't near as big of a deal as it is in drag racing, or road racing, where there is extended periods of ***** out acceleration. I also have began to think of ABS as my friend at the track. Some would beg to differ, but I will happily let ABS 'think' for me... especially with my limited driving experience.

 

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IMO weight reduction in autocross isn't near as big of a deal as it is in drag racing, or road racing, where there is extended periods of ***** out acceleration. I also have began to think of ABS as my friend at the track. Some would beg to differ, but I will happily let ABS 'think' for me... especially with my limited driving experience.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea, If I'm not mistaken don't most race cars use ABS? Or at least sanction it's use?
I don't think you'd hear Michel Schumacher whining about the trade off between the benifits of ABS vs. the 10-15lbs in weight savings, but to each his own.
The amount of time you'd gain in weight savings would be more than made up for by the amount of time you'd gain with more aggessive computer controlled braking.

 

ABS is too intrusive in Integras.

It's never "saved my ***" but rather annoyed the hell out of me. Track and street.

 

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It's never "saved my ***" but rather annoyed the hell out of me. Track and street.
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agree.. its too aggressive.. it engauges to soon, on my R on the other hand, is alot different

 

if your trying to get rid of some weight out of your car, lose some weight. 10-12 pounds? what is that 1 horsepower? what the hell is one horsepower going to do for you? abs is there for a reason, its been optional on alot of cars for a long time! thats like saying, let me get rid of my power windows, and power door locks, just so i can save a pound but work my arms harder to roll down the windows. it just doesnt make any sense, plus, the abs isnt there to make u work harder, its tehre to prevent an accident. your just not experienced enough to know. youll find out, but i hope for your sake, its not the hard way or you dont have a heavy price to pay. you kids go autocross with your car and dragrace and remove the whole interior for a day or two of racing, while the other 364 or 363 days you drive that honda or acura to work or school or what have you. if your going to race at the track and dont want it, why not just pull out the fuse or relay instead of totally taking it out? im sorry but it doesnt make any sense to me. someone prove me wrong.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jesse H &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ABS is too intrusive in Integras.

It's never "saved my ***" but rather annoyed the hell out of me. Track and street.
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didn't they revise ABS in the later models, so it wasen't as intrusive? I think i read that somewhere on here. I know what you are talking about though, sometimes it kicks in when you dont want it to.

 

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You have to keep in mind not everyone uses their car the way you do...

Little stuff that only weighs a few pounds adds up, if you take out enough of it.

 

I dont even understand why any of you are bothering to post why you think 2k1_ITR_0736 shouldnt remove ABS. If he wants to take it out let him.

 

Wonder how many of these idiots replying have actually been to the tracks...

 

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I clearly stated I had limited driving experience (at the track), and that is one of the reasons I have come to grips with my ABS. To me it seems much easier than learning the limit/fine line of where my brakes lock.

Also in my first post on this thread, I said that from what I have heard, you basically need a doner teg with out ABS, because you need to source so many non ABS parts.

I was then going on to explain why I didn't think ABS was that bad. I thought it was relevant to the conversation.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IVI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your trying to get rid of some weight out of your car, lose some weight. 10-12 pounds? what is that 1 horsepower? what the hell is one horsepower going to do for you? abs is there for a reason, its been optional on alot of cars for a long time! thats like saying, let me get rid of my power windows, and power door locks, just so i can save a pound but work my arms harder to roll down the windows. it just doesnt make any sense, plus, the abs isnt there to make u work harder, its tehre to prevent an accident. your just not experienced enough to know. youll find out, but i hope for your sake, its not the hard way or you dont have a heavy price to pay. you kids go autocross with your car and dragrace and remove the whole interior for a day or two of racing, while the other 364 or 363 days you drive that honda or acura to work or school or what have you. if your going to race at the track and dont want it, why not just pull out the fuse or relay instead of totally taking it out? im sorry but it doesnt make any sense to me. someone prove me wrong.

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Well in case you didnt know, i have 4 integra's and a pickup truck. the integra this particular inquiry is about, is a car that has been desgined, by me, for a track use only car. soo the other 363 days i have 4 other vehicles to choose from. all of which i am fully aware of its capabilities, and are perfectly road legal, and have all safety hardware inplace. thinks before you speak. also, i am a very skilled driver, and a car is less controllable when abs is enguage, brake pedal feel is non existant, as well as the system that is in my 95 gsr, quite touchy and tempremental. therefor, i feel my driving skill is beyond the capabilities of a lil box that thinks the car is losing traction..

h-t needs a : open mouth, insert foot: emoticon.

 

god, i think for starters people should stop being so damn defensive and secondly, if he doesnt want it, he doesnt want it, plus he shouldnt have to justify himself and 2k1, you shouldnt have to feel the need to. anyway, i think the best way to do it would be to get a new master cylinder for non abs, and new hoses, and since you are all about pedal feel, that might not be a bad idea. but remember that when you are disconnecting/pulling out the abs sender that you need to de-pressurize it. my 2 cents.