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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Did a search, bleh!


Mah 6 years old kar is nearly 50,000 mi. And it will be seeing some action very soon and through out 2004. Should I change the timing belt for insurance? Can I use a Toda one on a stock motor Toda cam gears? Cams is a very likely mod soon...what is the price differece? holla back!
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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stock belt is around $60usd. Toda/PE is around $180? i say stock belt should be fine with stock cam shafts. i've been using a new stock timing belt for the last 12k miles on Jun3's. the belt still looks very strong.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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Since the stock belt is good for 105,000 miles why don't you wait till your ready to put cams in, and at that point the extra for the PE belt would only be extra insurance. Remember that If the stock belt is properly installed it should work with any/ most set of cams.

Ray, what cams???
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Umm...I'm going to holla' back or something...

How soon are the cams going in? If soon...wait it out, and change everything then. That includes, among other things, timing belt, water pump, cam seals on each cam, cam cap seal on on the exhaust cam near the distributor, valve cover seal, and so on.

What cams? Unless they're crazy lift ones like the Toda's...keep the stock belt. Most people change between 60k and 90k miles.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Havn't seen one of this around....changing timing belt (nEoMuGen)

Check it for wear.

If it's fine, get the Toda timing belt when you get cams.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cheezthis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Umm...I'm going to holla' back or something...

How soon are the cams going in? If soon...wait it out, and change everything then. That includes, among other things, timing belt, water pump, cam seals on each cam, cam cap seal on on the exhaust cam near the distributor, valve cover seal, and so on.

What cams? Unless they're crazy lift ones like the Toda's...keep the stock belt. Most people change between 60k and 90k miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Basically, I would like to know if timing belt should replace according to the age of the vehicle as well? Can timing belt rupture prematurely due to age?
I will definetly change belt if chaning cams, but that will be another story.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nEoMuGen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Basically, I would like to know if timing belt should replace according to the age of the vehicle as well? Can timing belt rupture prematurely due to age?
I will definetly change belt if chaning cams, but that will be another story.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I understand what you're saying. I think you should just take a look at the belt. With the mileage you have, it should still be ok, but you can never be to sure. Take a look.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:22 AM
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Default Re: Havn't seen one of this around....changing timing belt

stock belt is fine for any cam setup
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Default Re: Havn't seen one of this around....changing timing belt (nEoMuGen)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nEoMuGen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Basically, I would like to know if timing belt should replace according to the age of the vehicle as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe the owner's manual is quite specific on this, and says that it can go 105K miles, with no time interval specified (even though the interval of 7 years is specified on other 105K services). (There's an exception if your car is often used in extreme temperatures - over 110 degrees F or under around -20 degrees F, IIRC.)

That being said, rubber belts can eventually dry out and crack, and I might suggest replacing it at ~10 years if you don't hit the mileage by then. But your car is only three years old. I would wait until 105K miles, or until you are doing other service that provides easy access to the timing belt.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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His car is a 98. If/when you do cams, change timing belt, check water pump.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Oops! The avatar threw me off. Thanks for the correction.

I know the recommendation for the '94 Integra is every 90K miles or 6 years, whichever comes first. I'm not sure when they changed it to 105K miles regardless of year.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oops! The avatar threw me off. Thanks for the correction.

I know the recommendation for the '94 Integra is every 90K miles or 6 years, whichever comes first. I'm not sure when they changed it to 105K miles regardless of year.
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I think I'd take a look and change it soon if I was NeoMugen. As you mentioned, extreme changes in temperature over time, and tracking the vehicle would make me change it..
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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Default Re: Havn't seen one of this around....changing timing belt (nEoMuGen)

ray go stock,
and bring it to my place when u need work
i need money
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Havn't seen one of this around....changing timing belt (nEoMuGen)

The timing belt will last up to 100k easily. Change at 90k if earliest.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Better safe than sorry IMO.

In the Helms it also states to check for oil on the belt/signs of wear.. if so, change.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dan GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ray go stock,
and bring it to my place when u need work
i need money </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not a problem, but I might need to camp outside your house to make sure you can commite to the appoinment.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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Default Re: Havn't seen one of this around....changing timing belt (nEoMuGen)

stock belt... i used for 20k plus miles w/ spec b's no problems
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Stock belt on Toda B's after 6months and it snapped. Installing error after 6months? I think not. Just get the PE/Toda belt so your better safe than sorry. I wish I did but I decided to run the stock belt on Toda B's b/c "its fine". Owell **** happens.
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