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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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200 miles and I've already used 3/4 tank. Empty light comes on between 220-240 miles.

I'm losing serious gas mileage in this ever increasing cold weather. I'm actually driving slower and minimizing idling to save gas but it seems to get worse.

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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Is it the v6? In all the hondas I have ever owned or driven after 1/2 it goes FAST like from full to 1/2 I get about 220 miles and then from 1/2 to the light coming on I only get about another 100 miles.....I get a total of 320 miles to a tank (like 26-28 mpg) and its a 90 accord 4 banger.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VRDrvr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it the v6? In all the hondas I have ever owned or driven after 1/2 it goes FAST like from full to 1/2 I get about 220 miles and then from 1/2 to the light coming on I only get about another 100 miles.....I get a total of 320 miles to a tank (like 26-28 mpg) and its a 90 accord 4 banger.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The sad part is that this is a 4-banger.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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cold weather and letting the car warm up has affected my mileage this winter so far, but i would rather let the engine warm up than worry about 50-60 miles to a tank. i am only getting 240 miles or so of city driving per tank right now
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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5th gen accord for your reference...
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwogen1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cold weather and letting the car warm up has affected my mileage this winter so far, but i would rather let the engine warm up than worry about 50-60 miles to a tank. i am only getting 240 miles or so of city driving per tank right now </TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn...so what you're telling me is that this is normal--

I wonder what mileage those people who drive SUV's get...
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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im not saying it is normal, but i do know that is has an effect. if im letting my car warm up like 2wice a day it is definitely ideling(sp) harder when it warms up cause of the cold....damn imports
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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damn...you guys aren't living at altitude are you? (though i know ohio is pretty flat)
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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that doesnt sound right, i have an h22 with an accord tranny and i still get 400 miles to a full tank, when i was getting gas mileage that bad, my o2 sensor was bad. might want to investigate that
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RotaryBzzzz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn...you guys aren't living at altitude are you? (though i know ohio is pretty flat)</TD></TR></TABLE>


Worse...Staten Island(hills and stop lights at every corner). I get better mileage in Manhattan.

Still I don't remember my mileage this being bad since last winter.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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I live a mile high.......(denver colorado) but when I took a road trip to vegas I could light up my tires with an AT.....plus I got like 400-450 on a tank.....versus 300-350 around here........ on high altitude
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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There's an empty light on a 6th Gen? Since when?

I remember having like 1/8 tank of gas left, and no lights lit up.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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I am getting 300-350 miles for a full tank, same car with some mods too..

o2 sensors might be shot
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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well see if this makes any sense, when i fill up the tank the needle doesnt always go past the (F)full line....mileage seems the same though. highway miles i get at least 400-450+. what is thelowdown on the o2 sensors? thanks
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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The light comes on when there is about 3 gallons left.

You could try clening your fuel injectors or getting new spark plugs
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 03:01 AM
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i agree... as my o2 sensor went bad, i watched the gas mileage slowly get worse and worse. i went from about 25 mpg to like 17. replaced the o2 sensor, and bam, back to 25 mpg.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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is it realitively easy to change the o2 sensor? isnt there a front and a rear o2 sensor, and which one is it that might need replaced if its fuel related? thanks in advance......
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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Your ecu takes measurements from both o2 sensors and compares the 2 and then adjusts the air/fuel ratio......I would suggest replacing the one on the header first to see if it helps then if not the other one on the cat (?????)
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crono139 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's an empty light on a 6th Gen? Since when?

I remember having like 1/8 tank of gas left, and no lights lit up.</TD></TR></TABLE>


You're kidding right? It comes on when you have 3-4(mine come on at 4) gallons left.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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How do I check for the 02 sensor? How much would the replacement cost if it is the problem?


Modified by r2N at 12:49 PM 1/10/2004
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r2N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


You're kidding right? It comes on when you have 3-4(mine come on at 4) gallons left.</TD></TR></TABLE>
right on It may be the spark plugs. When was the last time you had them replaced? It was -4 this morning here and I am still getting about 350-450 miles per tank.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r2N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do I check for the 02 sensor? How much would the replacement cost if it is the problem?


Modified by r2N at 12:49 PM 1/10/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

OEM (ngk) should be anywhere from 80-180 bucks for the front one...and about that for the rear o2 sensor.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VRDrvr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

OEM (ngk) should be anywhere from 80-180 bucks for the front one...and about that for the rear o2 sensor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's quite a range of price. Is there a website I can purchase this from, and how complicated is it to install?
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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http://www.secureleadercom.com...e.asp

here ya go.....select your year and model then select eletrical then sensors and find your 02 sensor...front should be by the header and the rear should be by the cat.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by icedmocha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
right on It may be the spark plugs. When was the last time you had them replaced? It was -4 this morning here and I am still getting about 350-450 miles per tank. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have about 14,500 miles on my car so far. I checked the maintenance schedule and the spark plugs aren't on the list until I believe for 22,000 mile checkup.

Thanks for your replies.
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