See for yourself:
http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dy...I.pdf

 

With just the intake? Hell no... maybe if the car had a H/E.

 

damn?

 

v2's are rated really high, take a look at accord 03-04 v6 18hp/18 tq, there has been some speculations that our cars (accord 04) adjust timing due to octane to give us 10hp/10tq. don't know if you k-series people get?

 

I think its legit. I plan on selling my k&n and getting a V2 in the spring. I think the RSX gained like 18hp from a V2 so I'm not surprised the Si is close to that.

 

no.

 

i got a reg. aem intake, anyone know the power i can make from that?

 

doesn't seem quite right to me. . .

 

he is only a few hp higher than usual... I think it is possible for this to be all stock wit hthe exception of the Intake... anyone know off the top of their heads the gain these intakes get one RSX-S?

 

This is called marketing, AEM makes perfromance parts and markets them that way. Along the same lines that is why every intake on the market is the best and makes the most power available. You will be hardpressed to find another source other than AEM that are going to post gains a generous as that for the AEM V2. It is all hype and no better than thier version #1.

 

how much h/p can possibly be gained with friggin sound waves?

 

if its true it is pretty mad... although i dont like CAI...

dont hate i live in a rainy area

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gerhard_001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is called marketing, AEM makes perfromance parts and markets them that way. Along the same lines that is why every intake on the market is the best and makes the most power available. You will be hardpressed to find another source other than AEM that are going to post gains a generous as that for the AEM V2. It is all hype and no better than thier version #1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, i wouldn't say that it's all hype. the design principle behind the v2 intake is sound, but i think there are other more important factors than multiple intake resonance freqs.

 

I really want to somehow substantiate these results. Isnt there a dyno of the RSX-S V2 that someone did somewhere that showed lower gains than AEMs?

 

yeah, i think it's kind of strange how AEM removed the postings of the old version one intakes from their site as soon as the version 2 intake dynos came out.

guess they didn't want people to compare the two. . .

 

aem bought dc sports and now only sell aem v2 and dcsports sr (DAC) and cai for ep3.

http://aempower.com/press_events_detail.asp?aid=29

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gerhard_001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is called marketing, AEM makes perfromance parts and markets them that way. Along the same lines that is why every intake on the market is the best and makes the most power available. You will be hardpressed to find another source other than AEM that are going to post gains a generous as that for the AEM V2. It is all hype and no better than thier version #1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, mostly hype. Injen claims there CAI produces the same if not better numbers than the V2. I say you really can't go wrong with this mod, intake is a intake (just don't get to cheap or ghetto with it). I would save some money and just go with a Injen Cold Air intake.

 

According to the dyno's done by members over at clubrsx, the V2 on the average makes no where near the advertised whp on the Type S. There was one guy who gained 17whp from the V2, but his baseline seemed a little low at around 150whp.

From all the V2 dyno's i have seen over at clubrsx, i can for sure tell you that the V2 is no where near as consistent as other intakes made for the RSX. Another guy who had installed both the V2 and Hondata IMG showed an average increase of 5whp from the IMG, but the V2 did not add any whp on top of the IMG's gains. On one run, his car actually lost 1 peak whp with the addition of the V2. If you really want to purchase the V2, do not install the hondata IMG along with it. The 1/8" thick gasket throws off AEM's whole "resonance design" behind the V2. Even Montoya himself stated that the IMG's thickness could be the reason why that guy's dyno showed no additional gain after installing the V2 on top of the IMG.

Also, the V2 for the RSX is very sensitive. The install must be done correctly. Any variation can reduce the gains netted, whether it be not connecting the TB boot correctly or having the filter sit too far up the intake pipe. AEM even states that the V2 should be installed with an aftermarket exhaust to show the most gains. Duh, of course that's true. Which intake and exhaust combination doesn't make more power over just having an intake?

I'm not stating that the V2 does not show gains, because it does (about 6-8whp on average), but it's no where near the advertised numbers and is for sure NOT consistent. That's a fact.

 

anyone else wonder why AEM's dyno sheets are graphs drawn up in Excel instead of showing scans of real Dynojet printouts?

 

dynojets export dyno data as excel (or csv) files don't they?


Modified by glw at 12:56 AM 1/11/2004

 

That's some good info, sjracer. Thanks.

The sad part is that if you took the Dyno for the V2 and split all the gains in HALF, it would still be the best-performing intake for the EP3...all the ones we have seen so far show marginal and brief gains sometimes coupled with a loss in the bottom end.

 

The K series cars really benefit from intakes though, so this is believable. Look at the Toda kit for the Type S, that's HUGE power from an NA Honda.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by glw &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dynojets export dyno data as excel (or csv) files don't they?</TD></TR></TABLE> maybe... but why not publish actual dyno sheets like everyone else does? if you look at a real dyno graph it has a lot more data points than the AEM homemade graphs... just seems a little fishy... implies that the data has been filtered or altered somehow.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REVHARD_EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The K series cars really benefit from intakes though, so this is believable. Look at the Toda kit for the Type S, that's HUGE power from an NA Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's b/c toda's kit has new cams & ecu. . . no surprise there.

the k20 does respond very well to mods, but it's b/c it's a 2.0L and isn't as highly tuned from the factory as the older honda motors were.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsxmachine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> maybe... but why not publish actual dyno sheets like everyone else does? if you look at a real dyno graph it has a lot more data points than the AEM homemade graphs... just seems a little fishy... implies that the data has been filtered or altered somehow.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i just answered your question... but i did go out and buy one for my ep3... like hatch2k said if it is half true then it's the best intake around for the ep3... especially the low end torque i'm hoping i get mine installed for the auto-x this weekend.