I was just wondering if I should rebuild my ls, or go gsr, then rebuild that. The only difference is that I will have the ls sooner.

I was wondering if you guys with stock LS's and GSR's would post your numbers or dyno sheets and give a breif description of your setup.

Thanks a lot

 

Your going to get told to search so allow me to be the first....SEARCH! Now moving on.....a GSR is ultimately better for boosting. You start with 30 more HP and a much better flowing head. Also, the tranny is better designed for a boosted application. I dont have any dyno numbers yet or I would post them.

 

If you have the money go with the gsr. If you dont have that much to throw out, just go with the ls. No matter what you will get good power out of both setups. All the depend on what you do to both. Do not short cut anything!

 

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I am going to contradict to that....'cause an LS has a lower compression and its tranny has longer gear ratios which is definitely better for forced induction... TOP END, BABY...TOP END!!!! Before you go babbling about DOHC VTEC's "30 more HP"....do your homework...LS motors have just the same potential as VTECs do. All those lil GSR-swapped Civics I waxed in the past should knew that by now!!!!

 

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I am going to contradict to that....'cause an LS has a lower compression and its tranny has longer gear ratios which is definitely better for forced induction... TOP END, BABY...TOP END!!!! Before you go babbling about DOHC VTEC's "30 more HP"....do your homework...LS motors have just the same potential as VTECs do. All those lil GSR-swapped Civics I waxed in the past should knew that by now!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Man how mis-information spreads

 

both are equally good in their own way.

 

"Man how mis-information spreads" by 94gsr4dr


Dont hate wut you cant beat....hahaha!!!!

 

I suppose you like the ls tranny because you are in boost longer huh.

Stay in boost all day as someone with a shorter geared tranny walks you

 

i heard that if you pushing 450 hp and up or some good power that the ls would benefit you better. shorts gears for the track long gears for the interstate.

 

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What is your reasoning there? How would accelerating slower benefit you? Traction? Not exactly my first choice for traction control. Top end? If you want to do high speed runs sure, go to the salt flats - it will help there.

 

how many pros are running factory ls transmssions? and for that matter ls motors w/ stock head?

not to many, if any

 

I really liked my LS motor for the street. It was stock, it made good power, and I beat the hell out of it... It took it too w/ out skipping a beat. The lower compression is nice because you add more boost. They're pretty easy to find and easy on the wallet to replace if you mess it up. I ran mine @ 12psi=274whp and occasionally boosted it up to 14psi if I knew I was running a car in particular and felt I needed some extra power. It was fun while it lasted but I spun a rod bearing cause of an oil problem and now im going to give a stock gsr motor a shot while I build a block.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=724745

Here's a example of a stock LS @ 1 bar. TOrque .

 

GSR will almost always make more power psi for psi(I say almost because I have seen some shitty tunes out there). If your on a budget, do an LS. I LOVE mine and it hauls some serious ***. Spinning all the way through second gear when you roll into it can get annoying though....better suspension and tires on the way

 

How many DOHC VTEC turbo'd cars i have beaten....P L E N T Y !!!!!

 

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your car probably build and boosting 20psi. what other peeps saying that stock ls vs stock gsr with same turbo...gsr will out perform.

 

Go LS/VTEC. Build the LS bottom end and run the LS motor for a while. That will give you time to get ahold of a B16 head, rework it, get some decent cams, a good IM then when the time comes swap out the corked LS head for the reworked B16.

As for a tranny for a boosted motor Id recomend the LS trans and the 4.4 GSR/B16 FD. Or you can take it a step further and do what Im going to do

1st. 3.077 (ATS)
2nd. 1.900 (GSR)
3rd. 1.269 (LS)
4th. 0.966 (LS)
5th. 0.714 (LS)
FD 4.400 (GSR)

 

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What a worthless statement.

 

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I am going to contradict to that....'cause an LS has a lower compression and its tranny has longer gear ratios which is definitely better for forced induction... TOP END, BABY...TOP END!!!! Before you go babbling about DOHC VTEC's "30 more HP"....do your homework...LS motors have just the same potential as VTECs do. All those lil GSR-swapped Civics I waxed in the past should knew that by now!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

i think you need to take your foot out of your mouth and do you're own homework, as well as a few others in this thread.

 

Why waste the money on a GSR motor unless you have one and even if you do have one laying around sell that biatch and put the few grand you get from that chunk of Honda gold into the LS. I think 3000 bucks could possibly make the LS have more power than the GSR would.

If you dont then dont buy one think of how much you could do with the at least couple thousand you would save. Get headwork and cams for the LS

 

*sigh* ... this topic is so old...

 

chime!!chime!!!......Let me just say both are great engines made by the best car company in all the land....But anyway back to the question, ahh,,,well,,, you guys allready know what I think... for .....

 

The numbers I made in my sig were with a b18c1 w/stock sleeves, rods and pistons, on pump gas. I loved that setup very much, but since this car is a daily driver, my powerband proved to be almost useless. I therefore sold that setup, and. . .
Now I am running a completely stock LS with the same turbo making, about 100whp less and more torque. This setup therefore has a wider powerband proving to be more useful and ending up, to be alot faster on the street.

In conclusion all the setups I have ran in the past, with gsr engines proved to be very successful and put down some nice numbers, but I would much rather drive my current LS setup, and wouldnt change it for anything else. . . just yet.

not necessarily an answer to your question, just my opinion

 

"The numbers I made in my sig were with a b18c1 w/stock sleeves, rods and pistons, on pump gas. I loved that setup very much, but since this car is a daily driver, my powerband proved to be almost useless. I therefore sold that setup, and. . .
Now I am running a completely stock LS with the same turbo making, about 100whp less and more torque. This setup therefore has a wider powerband proving to be more useful and ending up, to be alot faster on the street.
In conclusion all the setups I have ran in the past, with gsr engines proved to be very successful and put down some nice numbers, but I would much rather drive my current LS setup, and wouldnt change it for anything else. . . just yet."

can't mess with that statement........ the man has been to both sides of the discussion.....
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why was your powerband unusable on the street and how did it change slug?