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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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aight, i've been hearing from people that engine swaps in PA are illegal as of Jan 2004... if your car is 95 and up, but if its 94 or lower, than it's aight... has anyone else heard it? this really sucks because i was plannning on getting a GSR swap in my del sol in like 2 months....
another thing... when were the first civic si coupes made?
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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They're legal as long as you put a motor in from the same year or newer. Also you have to have the correct paperwork.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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i have a 95 civic so that means my engine has to be 95+? so i cant put like a 94 JDM engine in there?
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thrty8street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 95 civic so that means my engine has to be 95+? so i cant put like a 94 JDM engine in there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct. And if you are in California you have to be able to pass smog as well.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thrty8street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 95 civic so that means my engine has to be 95+? so i cant put like a 94 JDM engine in there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No you can not put a 94 JDM engine in there.

I however have no kind of laws like that where i live!!
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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no jdm engines period in cali
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=551049

Check that out before you say no JDM motors in Cali.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tovlakas &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no jdm engines period in cali</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true, JDM engines can pass smog.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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Default Re: engine swap -> illegal??? (flippedoutasian)

It doesn't matter where you live, any car with a same-year or newer engine is legal, so long as you can prove it's yours. and where you folks that need smog checks, yes, jdm motors can pass smog.. I've seen people use fuel controllers to run a little bit on the lean side just to pass..

Si Coupes came out fall of 98 as the 99 Si.. 99/00 .
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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hhmm i stand corrected but im glad... i always wanted to swap a jdm in there... can someone tell me what u need to do to pass a smog with a jdm engine? assuming the ppl dont have their heads up their *** and can RECOGNIZE the engine of course..

thanks

ps the running lean fuel controller thing i read that, but is that all you have to do?
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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as far as I know that's the easiest way to pass.. but you better hope they know you have that thing running your engine lean.. i would have it set up, run it a couple days and keep it running lean but hide the controller or something.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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do you know anything about SMOG2 or whatever its called where we are now required to run our cars on a dyno? how do jdm engines play into this?
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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aight but i have a 97 del sol, so does that mean i can't swap in a GSR motor? because i heard you're not allowed to in PA to swap in a bigger engine if your car is newer than 95...
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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wow.. this law was for california, now its in other states?
search for california smog and swap threads for your answer.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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NrG U postwhore!
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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So im guessing this law is only in effect for those of you that have emissions?
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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be a thug and just swap it in

fug the po po
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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Man I just got a hatchie with a B20/vtec...it better pass. I got buddies that work at shops. It really better pass or I am gonna be pissed as hell. I will have to go to my new duty station soon and I have to get the car legalized before I go anywhere.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkKnight[DMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]

No you can not put a 94 JDM engine in there. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats is not really true. What more comes into play is what obd itt is. Say if you have a 95 gsr motor which is obd1, and you have a 96 civic chassis which is suppost to have a obd2 motor, then in that case no that won't work. But what if you have a 94 gsr motor and a 95 civic chassis, that is perfectly legal because it is the same obd, no where on the motor is there a stamp with a year on it .....when i went to the ref they just checked all the obd stuff to make sure it was compliante with the motor not the year of the car. just so you know its a 88crx with a obd1 b16

and the ref i went to said he would never pass a b20 block in anything besides a crv because its a suv motor. just to give you a heads up.
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