Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

b16 into my 92 civic SI

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 10:52 AM
  #1  
Uneekpinoysk8er's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default b16 into my 92 civic SI

i was thinking of swapping a jdm b16 into my car,do you guys think it would be worth it? i keep reading about how b16 is a "tourqueless engine" and what not. Anyone here with a b16 in there car care to share their experience with it?
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 10:59 AM
  #2  
Targa250R's Avatar
be professional
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 13
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (Uneekpinoysk8er)

B16A: faster than a D-series, slower than a B18.

The B16A is really no different to drive daily than a D-series, other than its requirement for premium fuel. It has about the same amount of power as a Z6 until you reach the high revs.

It's up to you whether it would really be worth it. Personally, if I were you, I wouldn't bother with the "minor" step up to the B16A since you already have the Si with the D16Z6. Sure, it'll be faster overall, but you won't notice it unless you wind it out all the time. If I were to do an engine swap into an Si, it would have to be 1.8L to make it worthwhile.

If your priority is straight line speed on a limited budget, you can always turbocharge the D-series for less than what an OBD-1/2 B-series engine swap would cost.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 11:51 AM
  #3  
nsxmatt's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 9,309
Likes: 1
From: Indiana
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (Targa250R)

My old EG with a Z6 swap and I/H/E ran 15.3's which was pretty good. My EG hatch with a I/H/E B16 ran 13.9. 35 more hp, closer ratio tranny, 1k rpm more usable power band. If you don't know how to drive very well a GSR swap would be a good choice, the extra 10 ft/lbs of TQ makes up for driver error with the illusion of more power.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 12:07 PM
  #4  
Ya@inlinePRO's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,677
Likes: 0
From: in, a pothole
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (nsxmatt)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My old EG with a Z6 swap and I/H/E ran 15.3's which was pretty good. My EG hatch with a I/H/E B16 ran 13.9. 35 more hp, closer ratio tranny, 1k rpm more usable power band. If you don't know how to drive very well a GSR swap would be a good choice, the extra 10 ft/lbs of TQ makes up for driver error with the illusion of more power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well said.

Or, you can just get one of the bseries and BOOST it
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 12:16 PM
  #5  
rocco's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 278
Likes: 0
From: FUNKYTOWN, AB, Canada
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (Uneekpinoysk8er)

B16 is an awesome motor,I happened to luck out and got a insane b16,i dunno what in it yet but i can take stock type r's with it no word of a lie.I dont know why people are totally set on B18c&gt;B16.I mean i know a b18 will beat a b16 but i cant see it being too bad,after all the b16 slightly beats the gsr in most aspects other than displacement eg. better head,higher comp. pistons,better tranny etc. B18c is a good motor but its doesnt mean you automatically haveta count the b16 out. I myself would take a b18c but my choice for a b16 wouldnt be too far behind it.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 12:52 PM
  #6  
Good ol' Screwtape's Avatar
Multi-paradigm
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,476
Likes: 0
From: San Diego, CA
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (Uneekpinoysk8er)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Uneekpinoysk8er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinking of swapping a jdm b16 into my car,do you guys think it would be worth it? i keep reading about how b16 is a "tourqueless engine" and what not. Anyone here with a b16 in there car care to share their experience with it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It all depends on what you're looking to get out of the motor.
Any way you look at it, the motor has a lot of potential though.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 12:57 PM
  #7  
Odiedogcx's Avatar
AIRBORNE
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,492
Likes: 0
From: Napa, CA
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (R_EG)

b16

Lovesss turbo ..
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 01:01 PM
  #8  
Navid OG's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,149
Likes: 0
From: Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (R_EG)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It all depends on what you're looking to get out of the motor.
Any way you look at it, the motor has a lot of potential though.</TD></TR></TABLE>


very true... if u want to do drag (straight line racing) then a B18 would be a better choice but when u circuit race (tack with turnz ) u need high rev high HP, now we all know that a GSR or ITR motor has more HP but if u build that b16 it will be a beast, me myself i'm about to purchase a B16 motor and build it for circuit racing... i think its a good choice and the extra money u save (rather than buying a B18) u can drop that $$$ in the motor and be faster than a GSR or maybe even an ITR.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 01:34 PM
  #9  
chads's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 4,022
Likes: 1
From: NorthWest, Oregon :)
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (Navid OG)

i have a 00si i really like the b16 its not much untill you hit vtec and the 1k before it but its a fun engine to drive, i recomend it, youl be happy, and you have a light hatch so it will come alive.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 01:35 PM
  #10  
dc-lefty's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,297
Likes: 0
From: da O.g Cush..., ca, us
Default Re: b16 into my 92 civic SI (Navid OG)

I got a b16, I could walk gsr's all day in my heavy *** integra !! I think its my type r tranny. With the right mods this motor has potential. YOu just gotta rev da **** out it !!
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 02:23 PM
  #11  
b16turbohatch's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, ont, Canada
Default

I have a b16 in a 93 hatch and my friend has a b18c in a 92 hatch with roughly the same mods i beat him all day long at the track and the street. I get him off the line and he cant catch up the torque in the bottom end doesnt help him that much so the faster rpm's in my b16 get me ahead and he can't catch up to me.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 02:35 PM
  #12  
mattssi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,307
Likes: 0
From: salem, or, usa
Default Re: (b16turbohatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16turbohatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a b16 in a 93 hatch and my friend has a b18c in a 92 hatch with roughly the same mods i beat him all day long at the track and the street. I get him off the line and he cant catch up the torque in the bottom end doesnt help him that much so the faster rpm's in my b16 get me ahead and he can't catch up to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is it cause of your turbo?
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 02:36 PM
  #13  
Navid OG's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,149
Likes: 0
From: Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
Default Re: (mattssi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattssi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is it cause of your turbo? </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i was thinkin....
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2004 | 12:14 AM
  #14  
rocco's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 278
Likes: 0
From: FUNKYTOWN, AB, Canada
Default Re: (mattssi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattssi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is it cause of your turbo? </TD></TR></TABLE>according to his post,they have the same mods
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Solid Sneakers
Engine Machining & Assembly
4
Mar 11, 2019 03:59 AM
HUBB
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
14
Nov 25, 2003 08:32 PM
ih8danoles
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
12
Feb 26, 2003 02:29 PM
Sleeping4drLS
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
16
Feb 23, 2003 06:02 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:27 PM.