Dyno?? How does it feel after just putting htose cams in? I heard they are like the CTR Cams?? Experiences? Let me know! thanks

 

much more midrange and little bit top end.
better than ctr cams

 

Is it worth it paying all that money? Or is it better buyin Toda B;s, but then you have to get valve springs and retainers rite?? Toda B's are a lot more powerful am I correct? Someone told me the Toda A's cams can produce 230whp... i dont know bout that one?

 

230whp with TODA A's? wow.. never seen that before. and especially not on stock internals

thats even hard with TODA B's

btw: i thought you sold TODA parts, shouldn't you know the answer to these more than most of us

 

if your compression is lower than 12:1 then toda A is good.
if its 12 or over then jun3 or toda c are better bets.
230whp on toda a? i doubt it.
I built a mild 11.5:1 motor that made much more midrange power with toda A
than with JUN type3, but type 3 made more peak from 7500-8500.

 

do u have any dyno runs?

 

http://www.sgt-racing.com/b18c.html

 

how jonas how do u know so much

 

they dont have any dyno runs as Toda A

 

So the verdict should be Toda A's or Toda B's?

 

the verdict depends on how much do you want to spend, and whats your goal for power.

i dont know that much, i read a lot
sgT knows a lot more from experience

 

I made up the jun3 vs toda A graph, but i forgot i dont have ftp access at the
moment so i cant upload it.

my opinion, i would NEVER buy toda B cams.

 

why would u not buy toda b's?

 

my guess is that you might as well go with C's (if you were wanting to buy B's) since they both need almost the same amount of mods to make the most power from each

 

arggh... dont know wut to do

 

Toda C's are they streetable.. meaning easy and normal to drive?

 

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For some, not for others.

 

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Great dyno graphs! I need to venture down for some tuning myself come spring.

 

any more opinions?

 

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better than ctr cams
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.....what he said!

 

i know you have them black R... and i guess you enjoy having the mild cams?

 

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I enjoy having cams allmotor. I've have spec b's in one itr, and spec a's in another. I also have spec c's that will replace the aforementioned spec b's in that motor. The spec a's will actually get b00sted on in '04!

But honestly, they're great. No reliability or idle issues. No worry about upgrading the valvetrain/ tbelt, etc. And they can make 200whp with ctr pistons. Totally reliable. Daily driver cam, imho.

 

i really enjoyed the spec b's. lots of low end grunt. i ran them for 20k plus miles on stock valve train and timing belt without a problem. stock rev limiter. if you plan on reving past 8500 upgrade the springs and retainers.

 

I rev at 9200 RPM on stock valve train with no problems, with stock cams, if I put the toda b's will they run fine at that high of rpm?

 

That would not be very safe.