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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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I just replaced my tranny on my 88 accord 5spd and now I can't get the driver's side axle in. I can slide the pass. side right into place, but the driver's side won't go in all the way. My cousin looked at it and said there's a rod in there that you have to go through some procedure of putting one axle in, doing something and then the other. He's not exactly sure how to do it and I'm not sure either. So I'm here looking for help.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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Try getting one of Helm manuals for your car.

From all the axel replacements I have done, you just slide out your old one and slide in the new axel
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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push harder.
it will go in if the teeth are lined up
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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kinda hard to see in this pic, but there's a rod that comes down and is in the way

the flash owned the pic
I'll see if I can get a better pic sometime soon.

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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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That looks like the shaft that holds the spider gears in the diff. It's not going anywhere and you would not want it to either. Do your axles have a snap ring on the very end? If they do, then it takes a bit ob pounding to get the axle to snap in. This is a good think since it will keep them from falling out too. I usually put a piece of hardwood against the inner joint and give it a few hard raps with a hammer and it pops in. I don't think the Accord is any different from other hondas.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohudsolo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I usually put a piece of hardwood against the inner joint and give it a few hard raps with a hammer and it pops in. I don't think the Accord is any different from other hondas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly what I did on my moms 93 lx, worked pretty good, you just need to get a good whack on it. Another thing to try is putting the tire on the opposite side and wrap your legs around it, with the axle above your head. Then try and pull the axle in while using your legs to keep you from sliding on the ground. Heh, hope that made sense. Just stop being a puss and use some muscle.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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It's bigger than that though, it's a huge rod, probably 3/4" thick. The axle doesn't snap onto it, it just hits it and won't go any further. It definately doesn't look like it should snap on there.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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What is the differnce between the axel you took out, and the one that is going in? If the other one came outta there, then new one if it is the same, should slide right into place, I just don't think your shoving enough! That piece of metal you see is the diff!
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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i don't know about accord but did you guys put the right axles on the right side might have switch or mixed them up let us know.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tvrsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't know about accord but did you guys put the right axles on the right side might have switch or mixed them up let us know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's what i'm thinking
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 05:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is the differnce between the axel you took out, and the one that is going in? If the other one came outta there, then new one if it is the same, should slide right into place, I just don't think your shoving enough! That piece of metal you see is the diff!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where do you get this? He replaced his transmission, not axles.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kicker1_solo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just replaced my tranny</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you feel if it's bottoming out inside the transmission into something? Make measurements if necessary.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PupaScoopa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Can you feel if it's bottoming out inside the transmission into something? Make measurements if necessary.</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, we measured and looked at everything, it's hitting that rod in there and won't do anything else. It won't click onto it or anything, just plain hits it.
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 03:06 AM
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have u tried to move the peice of metal in the way with like a screw driver or soemthing
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 04:49 AM
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do you still have your old tranny laying around? If you do check it out to see if the metal piece is also in your old tranny?
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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Tried to move the piece up with a screwdriver and it won't go. Looked at the old tranny and that isn't in there when I look through the holes where the axle goes in. I haven't taken the old one apart yet to see anymore into it yet. I'm getting a new car tomorrow, so I'm slowly trying to figure this car out to get it sold.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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The internal component that hold the axles is the differential. If push comes to shove, and you have the same transmission, just swap the diff; shim it and put the transmission back in. Not a fun job to do... maybe follow up with where you found the transmission to ensure you have the right one.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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those c clips on the end of the axles can be a bitch, sometimes its really hard to get it to pop in. i used a rubber mallet and it the inner cv joint whle trying not to hit the boot and it popped in.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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If you can see all the way through the differential on your old tranny that means it has a LSD (limited slip differential) in it. The new tranny you have definatly does not as you can see the spider gear spindle (that bar in the way). Stop trying to pry on it as it is a VERY important part of the differential.

Sounds like your best bet is to either:
a) get some different axels (i.e. the ones for the new tranny)
b) swap out the differential from the old tranny into the new one.

I would go with option b as the LSD is desirable (if you did have it).
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 10:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zimmlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you can see all the way through the differential on your old tranny that means it has a LSD (limited slip differential) in it. The new tranny you have definatly does not as you can see the spider gear spindle (that bar in the way). Stop trying to pry on it as it is a VERY important part of the differential.

Sounds like your best bet is to either:
a) get some different axels (i.e. the ones for the new tranny)
b) swap out the differential from the old tranny into the new one.

I would go with option b as the LSD is desirable (if you did have it). </TD></TR></TABLE>That sounds like a very good possibility. The car is sold as soon as I get it fixed, so I think I'll just pop a new axle in it. I just found out that the tranny is from an 86, my old one was an 88. I thought 86-89s were all the same, but maybe they're not. I called the parts store and asked if the 86 and 88 axles were the same and they told me that they have a different part number. So I'm going to try an 86 axle and see if that works.
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 06:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zimmlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you can see all the way through the differential on your old tranny that means it has a LSD (limited slip differential) in it. The new tranny you have definatly does not as you can see the spider gear spindle (that bar in the way). Stop trying to pry on it as it is a VERY important part of the differential.

Sounds like your best bet is to either:
a) get some different axels (i.e. the ones for the new tranny)
b) swap out the differential from the old tranny into the new one.

I would go with option b as the LSD is desirable (if you did have it). </TD></TR></TABLE>

Zimmlude is exactly right, the metal bar that the axle is hitting is due to a one wheel peeler. Your old one didn't have a bar because it was a lsd which allowed the axles to go in that extra bit that isn't going in now.
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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wtf 88 accords came with lsd???
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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lol, I was thinking that too
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