h22a in a 94 prelude full race car
1. hytech side exxit header
2. euro type r manifold extrude honed with 70 mill bbk throttle body
3. jun cams, jg springs and retainers and valves
4. hondata


stock block and stock head, no head port at all its a 95 jdm h22a

DYNED 220 TO THE WHEELS WITH 162 POUNDS FO TORQUE |

WAS GOING GOOD UNTIL 7 DYNO RUN AND THE JAVIER GEEEK (JG) weak *** VALVETRAin gave out and dropped alll 4 valves

im pissed rright nbow at jjunk garage jg engine dynamics , or javier geek what ever u wanan call him

im gonna call jg aND COMPLAIN TO JAVIER GEEK LOST ONE PISTONS And all 16 vaLVES THANK JG FOR ALL YOUR HELP MAKIGN MY VALVES, HOPE THIS POST GIVES U GUYS A GOOD NAME HAHAHA


BEFORE I PUT THE JUN CAMS IN I CALLED JG AND ASKED THEM IF THEIR VALVE TRAIN WILL HANDLE THE JUN CAMS THEY SAID NO WORRIES IT WILL HANDLE IT, BUT NOW IM WORRIED CAUSE JAVIER GEEK BETTER GET ME All new springs retaienrs and valves

i spend $700 from jg on the springs and retinaers and valves and now im pissed what a w2aste of 700 bucks , im never doing business with javier geek ever again cause of this incident


maybe its my fault i should of listedn to my friends and bougth the jun springs and retainers and not messed around with soem weak *** company like jg that now blew my motor

 

sorry to hear that man...

 

Tom, sounds to me like its time for you to pick up my h22a for that race car... hahaha

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=687860

 

what cams were you using? did you give javiar geek the cam specs? is it possible your cams cause the valve springs to bind thus causing broken retainers? (usually will only happen on one cylinder)

are you sure it wasn't user error installing the keepers? seeing at 4 went....is it possible that the one falling first caused the other 3 to go?

just questions!

 

3. jun cams, jg springs and retainers and valves

 

aebs put the head together and also dynoed the car

 

sounds like you were making big numbers, but to blame javier that your enigne blew sounds like your passing judgment to fast, it's a race motor bro you have to understand that and **** CAN HAPPEN.

I mean come on I know how you must feel I have seen 2 blown fully built motors in a month and it was only because we were trying to go crazier, I dont blame the shop for it happening **** our bad for trying to make all that much power (220 at 7000 rpms ).

sucks your motor blew, but know if you play you gotta pay sometime with the mishaps that can happen.


Modified by allmtrwhore2 at 5:59 PM 12/21/2003

 

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that would be first on my list.....but dropping 4 valves sounds fishy to me....

 

dam nice numbers man ...hope you get it figuered out ...gotta graph we can see :

 

basically the bottom end is stock so there shouldnt be an issue of valve clearance , so if i dropped some valves it has to be becasue of the javier geek valve train , what else could of cause the problem

i bought the valves and springs and retainers new from javier geek for $700 and now im pissed

 

WHAT SPRINGS AND RETAINER U GUYS THINK I SHOULDGO WITH

THE CAMS IM RUNNING IS THE JUN CAMS

SO IM THINKING OF JUST GETTIGN THE JUN SPRINGS AND RETAINERS WHAT U GUYS THINK

 

I MADE 220 HP AT 8100 RPM BUT I DROPPED ALL MY VALVES AT ABOUT 7500

 

it is best to only run jun valvetrain with jun cams....that's why you always hear people breaking their jun cams because they use different springs and retainers from other companys...i'd play it on the safe side...would hate to see 900 dollar cams break into pieces

 

theyre more than 900

900 is for b series h series are like 1100 thats what i paid straight from jun when they used to be in usa

 

Man, why would you spend that kind of money on Jun cams and then use someone elses valve springs and retainers? To save money? How much are you saving know?

 

It's a very simple issue saddly enough. Buy the complete jun valvetrain or ferrea. Mistakes happen for a reason, so you change and learn.

 

sorry but on JG aka "Just Garbage"

 

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"Just Garbage" Ran 9.93 down the strip.. off the shelf block and head. Have yet to see better.

Have you ever thought.. its AEBS fault? that they didn't install the springs to the right height?

Maybe the did it to their specs.. not jg's specs. Something to think about.. you can't just "slap" them in.

On the engine builders

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dont matter i jsut oredered some jun springs and retainers and im gonan coninue to use my jun cams , i just thinjk the jg vvalvetrain was to weak to handle tohe jun cams , u might of ran 9 seconds with jun cams but the cams your running are not as agressive aas my jun cams

 

Listen, I'm sorry about your loss. I've spent money on things only to have them break as well... Things like that happen when you start using performance parts. Did you do a valve adjustment after AEBS installed all that stuff? Or did you just slap it on the block? Still sucks, and I hope you fix the problem soon...

 

I cant wait to see your new set-up It should be off the hook.....

 

dudes whats up , my buddy has been posting stuff for me on this website, i bought jun cams and then i called up jg b/c i was at the time 2 years ago strapped for cash, not any more; so i bought the cams then jg said that the springs would hold jun 3's, whatever they treated me good until 12/18 03 at aEBS, ROGER SANCO dyno'd the car, remember this is a prelude not a hatch or integ., 9th run into it @7500 BOOM\!!!!!!, floated a valve, this is unusual to me because i pulled the head off and #2 cyl. was gone, not all thwe way but what looked like happened was the spring gave out, dont know exactly hwo , coilbind or floatation of valve. but i ve talked to machinest ranging from cogswell, ed hale, etc,etc and they think that good old javy has himself a junkyard garage, getting springs from comptech?what kind of shizzle is that.. SO aslll i want to do is get my lude down the track, i had RJ simrock cut the car up, tinned it, w/ cage, lexan the windows, bogarts- rt , and kick **** fuel system ,car turned out pretty sic, paint looks like the A- Team van, anyways i dyno'd with stock block 219.2 and 162.1 ft. lbs. at 7500, with jun cams, jg valvetrain ,atr intake manifold,extrude honed- 70 mm trottle body and hondata, like i said i want to just get my ludee down the track, i dont care if i have to push it, then i have a big surprise for anyone who thought preludes were heavy, ive arranged for RS machine in carson, ca (john,rich)to put together an all motor 90 mm block , every thing machined by RS machine, basically i cant wait to drop rs block inside and rev out , i will run everything on that block under rs and i will dyno wereever they want me to so on this stock set up i will run jun cams with rev spring and srtock bottom end, im going to port out the head so that i can hopefully get 230 out of stocker , thanks for listen to my gums flap...

 

about those springs i dont know if i got an old set or what, even though i bought them 2 yrs ago, times change , anyways all i know is that i wont be buying JG anytime in this lifetime hopefully you guys will do the same in my foot steps, JG RULES??????????

 

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"Just Garbage" Ran 9.93 down the strip.. off the shelf block and head. Have yet to see better.

Have you ever thought.. its AEBS fault? that they didn't install the springs to the right height?

Maybe the did it to their specs.. not jg's specs. Something to think about.. you can't just "slap" them in.

On the engine builders

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Yeah it could be anyone's fault... but from my experience with Javier since 96' has always been garbage. All he cares about is his fat wallet and fat belly. Who is to say that things have changed now. If he's doing good now, more power to him But on assembling the head something could of gone wrong. I don't know that and you don't. The only people that know are the people who put it together... and I highly doubt that a company like AEBS who builds top notch race motors for 8 second race cars like Kubo Racing, Jotech, and HP Racing could be at fault... but hey anything can happen. I apologize for using this
on JG

 

I had a gsr with jun 3 cams and valve train that I bought from/had them install/and dyno at aebs. THEY BLEW MY MOTOR and blamed it on a faulty fuel injector AEBS I will NEVER buy anything from them again.