I'm looking into a p28 or a p72 are any of you runner one of these, how is it and what program are you running with it?

 

I'm running a chipped P28. I don't know what chip it is, but its great and makes me quite happy. Then I just used the Apexi VAFC to smooth out the power band and fine tune everything.

 

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What year is your car?
I ask, because I have a 96-98 GSR ecu for sale if you're interested.

 

p13 w/ spoon chip is what I like( other than hondata). Chipped p28 is kick *** if you are using a single runner intake, or remove your secondaries because it will not control them. P72 is nice and doesn't look for EGR if you don't wire it up so there is no CEL. The p72 is not as agressive in vtec I think and tends to run a little more lean.

 

Chipped P28, "supposedly" has a JUN program
I dont know for sure.

Vtec comes on like 6k, huge dead spot from like 4800-6100
runs like **** until the car is warm.
I have tried so many other p28's and this is the best i can get it to run. This one actually pulls top end after about 6k, all the others make the car run fine normally, and then dont pull top end whatsoever.
Motor is f20b
i need a Vafc

 

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What year is your car?
I ask, because I have a 96-98 GSR ecu for sale if you're interested.</TD></TR></TABLE>how much?

 

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Vtec comes on like 6k, huge dead spot from like 4800-6100
runs like **** until the car is warm.
I have tried so many other p28's and this is the best i can get it to run. This one actually pulls top end after about 6k, all the others make the car run fine normally, and then dont pull top end whatsoever.</TD></TR></TABLE>

We have our program for the P28 that run with similar settings as a Type S. I have the Type S (slightly modded to my liking) on a Hondata S200 and we have our program that we use/sell for the P28 ECU. I tried it out in my EK hatchback last week after I took the Hondata out (sold the car... getting picked up on Tues ) and the difference between our P28 program and the Hondata is maybe a little bit more fuel dumped past 6500 rpms with the Hondata. But unless you drive the same car back to back with the Hondata and the P28 w/H22A program, you can't tell a difference. Even mashing the throttle going up the onramp to a freeway, it still pulls like crazy. So, just to let you know from 1st hand experience, there is a chip out there that works pretty good in a P28 for the H22A engines.

 

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We have our program for the P28 that run with similar settings as a Type S. I have the Type S (slightly modded to my liking) on a Hondata S200 and we have our program that we use/sell for the P28 ECU. I tried it out in my EK hatchback last week after I took the Hondata out (sold the car... getting picked up on Tues ) and the difference between our P28 program and the Hondata is maybe a little bit more fuel dumped past 6500 rpms with the Hondata. But unless you drive the same car back to back with the Hondata and the P28 w/H22A program, you can't tell a difference. Even mashing the throttle going up the onramp to a freeway, it still pulls like crazy. So, just to let you know from 1st hand experience, there is a chip out there that works pretty good in a P28 for the H22A engines.
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Oh yea im sure of it, I was just saying what i had going on.
Whats this program, how much?

 

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Whats this program, how much?
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Custom maps, somewhat mimic'd from the Type S maps that we used in our Hondata S200 setup. Still, after I tried it out in my car for the first time (back to back with the Hondata), they feel very similar with maybe a slight difference after 6500, but that's very slight and only noticable if you try out both back to back.... or maybe it's just all in my head and they feel the same

 

ok well how Am i supposed to get ahold of that?
you selling this chip?
I need 9k rev limit, etc....

 

Age Engineering.. I am using their p28 program and it is the best I have used so far.. Havent gotten the chance to test out the Spoon program for the p13 though..

Vtec is set to 4.8k stock with a 8.3k redline.
With a VAFC I have Vtec set to 5.1 and some minor tuning and its the most balanced program I have tried yet. Lots of low end power and high end pull..

 

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Custom maps, somewhat mimic'd from the Type S maps that we used in our Hondata S200 setup. Still, after I tried it out in my car for the first time (back to back with the Hondata), they feel very similar with maybe a slight difference after 6500, but that's very slight and only noticable if you try out both back to back.... or maybe it's just all in my head and they feel the same
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Newman,
Is this the chip that I see on your website?? If so I think I'm going to order mine soon.

 

car is a 99, but motor is obd1, "H22EK", you said some thing about taking out the secondaries, is that possible?

 

i am using a jdm p13 w/ spoon chip in my h22ek.. VTEC pulls hard, and sounds like the motor is going to explode when it kicks in!!

 

To you guys with experience with all the different p28 programs.

Are the ignition maps from program to program similar or do they vary quite a bit?
Like I said above, im using a JUN program in my p28 and it has a huge dead spot.
I'm trying to figure out if this is going to be timing related or fuel maps.
Hoping to smooth it out with an AFC, but if its timing related im not going to get anywhere with an AFC
thanks

 

You HAVE to remember that an ECU program controls a lot of things including fuel and timing.. If the program you have is not specifically to that engine then things such as cam timing, ignition, fuel, and DEAD SPOTS will occur... Again I would suggest either getting a program from AGE Engineering or one of Newman's programs...

I can personally attest to AGE's program being a nice balance and also killer with an AFC... No dead spots and pulls all the way to 8k..

 

I just bought a p13 fro AG-eng that was socketed with a spoon, ks-rom and oem chip. I am about to swap my h22 in here in a few days. I am going to see how much difference there is between the oem and spoon.