Help with B20 swap into 1990 Civic Wagon

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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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Default Help with B20 swap into 1990 Civic Wagon

I do not know ANYTHING about these swaps since I just got this car.

I am wanting to put a B20 into the wagon, but I want to keep it as simple as possible.

Can someone please tell me what exactly I need to do this?

I would like to keep the DPFI if possible so I can avoid the wiring problems. But then I'm not sure what ECU I could use to run that on the B20. Are the older B20 preludes DPFI? Could I use a manifold from that if so?

Man I'm ****** clueless on old motors.

Please someone just tell me what I need to do to run a B20 CRV motor properly in my 1990 wagon. Thanks
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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Is it 4wd? If so, you're stuck with a D series unless you can figure out how to get a complete CRV driveline into there.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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you have to go MPFI ..
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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It's 2wd.

If I MUST use MPFI to have the B20, then I guess I will. It shouldn't be that hard. I was just hoping that maybe there was a manifold from another B series engine that is DPFI.. but I guess not.

Can anyone tell me what ECU/harness/etc that I will need to this?

I'll need to convert to an OBD1 ecu correct? Or could i use an OBD0 B20 ecu? -clueless-
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 02:43 AM
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don't konw of any b series with dpfi. convert your harness and run the right computer on it, you'll be happier in the end. you'll also need 88-91 4wd wagon axles, with 90-93 teg stubshaft. the rest is just buying swap mounts.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 03:55 AM
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You would treat the swap like most other B series EF swaps. You will need a mount kit (HASport, HCP, etc.) a B series cable tranny or a hydro tranny with the new HASport EF hydro kit.
You will have to go MPFI if you go with a B series, as there is no DPFI B series. To make it easier, just stick to OBD0 and use a 90-91 Integra PR4 ECU + distributor then some OBD0 injectors and resistor box. You MUST use the stock DPFI harness and rewire it to MPFI, the MPFI engine harness will not work with your chassis.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:34 AM
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http://yota1man.tripod.com/vtecwagon/
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECVillain &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You would treat the swap like most other B series EF swaps. You will need a mount kit (HASport, HCP, etc.) a B series cable tranny or a hydro tranny with the new HASport EF hydro kit.
You will have to go MPFI if you go with a B series, as there is no DPFI B series. To make it easier, just stick to OBD0 and use a 90-91 Integra PR4 ECU + distributor then some OBD0 injectors and resistor box. You MUST use the stock DPFI harness and rewire it to MPFI, the MPFI engine harness will not work with your chassis.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the reply.

So if I use the PR4 ecu, is this going to be sufficient for the B20? I would like to take advantage of all the B20's power. Perhaps I can buy a OBD1 conversion harness and run the prelude b20 ecu?
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nameless EJ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thanks for the reply.

So if I use the PR4 ecu, is this going to be sufficient for the B20? I would like to take advantage of all the B20's power. Perhaps I can buy a OBD1 conversion harness and run the prelude b20 ecu?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the b20 in the prelude is completely different than the cr-v b20b/z. don't think that you will be able to put a b20 prelude motor in your civic, not do-able without spending gobs of money on custom everything, and definitely not worth it.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 05:59 AM
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I know, I don't want to use the prelude B20. I will only use the CRV.

But what I was asking is.. can I use the OBD1 prelude B20 ECU with B20 CRV swap?
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 07:05 AM
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you technically could... but it'd prolly run like ***. If you are stuck on going to obd-1 then just get a p74 or p75, or even a obd-1 pr4 which i believe were from a 91-92 DA. I believe a majority of people run LS ecu's when going to a b20.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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you can get a chip for the obd1 ls ecu that will make the air/fuel curves better for your 2.0 displacement, or you could use an SAFC or VAFC for that. your best bet would be to have it professionally tuned though.

also, i don't think a standard b-series in EF mount kit will work for you.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YumVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, i don't think a standard b-series in EF mount kit will work for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>


really? Why do you say that?

thanks for the help. I'll probably just run a chipped OBD1 then..
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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i've seen a site where a guy with a b16 in his wagon had to have custom mounts made to make it fit.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Help with B20 swap into 1990 Civic Wagon

i just did my swap on my wagon b20 but i have a bad idel can any one help
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