Please correct me if I am wrong & provide me with the proper information.

Is this correct?

Zeal B spring rates* Front - 560 lb/in & Rear - 336 lb/in.

Zeal B2, Function Basics, B6* Front - 560 lb/in & Rear - 336 lb/in (as the softest) ** Front - 672 lb/in & Rear - 448 lb/in (as the stiffest)


Which ones can have their heigth adjusted? I'm also a little confused on which ones can have their stiffness adjusted.
Please help.


[Modified by BLITZ, 12:53 PM 9/21/2001]


[Modified by BLITZ, 12:54 PM 9/21/2001]


[Modified by BLITZ, 12:56 PM 9/21/2001]

 

have you checked here?
http://www.endlessusa.com/suspension/suspension.html

 

I have the B2's andthey are very stiff, but they are awesome!!!! B2's and B6's are full coilovers. Still in the process of tuning them for street with RE730 tires.

 

What is Zeal's top of the line circut N1 racing damper?? Comparable to the Mugen N1 damper.

 

seems both can adjust height and only the B2's stiffness can be adjusted.

 

The B2 is the same as the B, but with 6 way dampening on the shock. The B6 adds lower perch height adjustability, which allows you to adjust ride height and still retain full suspension travel. Here are the rates I have:
B F 10 kg/mm R 6 kg/mm
B2 F 10-12 kg/mm R 6-8 kg/mm
B6 same rates

 

That would be the Zeal Super Function

 

yes, however its not clear to me certain things. For xample, according to the site the Functioin Basic has the Height Adjustable Lower Bracket but it doesnt say that it has the Piston Valve Shock & if I go to the page where it has the spring rates it tells me that for the Street they are 560(F) - 336(R) & Circuit 672(F) - 448(R). To me that seems like you can adjust the stiffnest, but then why dont they say that it has the Piston Valve Shock? or is the PVS something different than being able to adjust the stiffness? Could it be that you just have the option of picking how stiff you want the spring?

I hope it makes sence & I apoligize for the question, maybe I am not reading the info correctly.

 

I wonder how the B2 w/ 215/45R16F & 205/50R15R (or 195/50R15) street tires will do out on a road course?

yoshi - who getting closer and closer to setting up his sus jdm style

 

ok, I'm still confuse & forgive me. But can some one list each suspension set up(B,B2,Function Basic,B6) & its features? For xample, next to each suspension you can type if you can adjust the height or not - also if you can adjust the stiffness or not.

When you adjust the damping are you adjusting the stiffness? is it the same thing?

thanks


[Modified by BLITZ, 2:02 PM 9/21/2001]

 

Entry Level - B, you can adjust height by compressing spring
B2 - adds dampening adjustment (6 way), height adjustment by compressing spring
Function Basic - Lower perch height adjustable (heigh adj without spring compression)
B6 - Adds 6 way dampening
S6 - Same as B6 but full alum vs. chromoly
I guess I should ask what you plan on doing. For street/auto x use, most find the B2 sufficient. For track/street use, the B6/S6 is a step up. Give me a call if you need anything else. Thanks.

 

Wow, those spring rates are pretty stiff. How harsh would it ride on the street?

 

Good, thats what I needed to know. Thank you FAST4DR, I am making progress.

Just a couple of more questions please. You mentioned that the Function Basic as well as the B6 have Lower perch height adjustable that allows you to adjust the height without spring compression. Are you able to xplain to me how the Lower perch works or maybe even tell me the pros & cons of having it or not? My car will not be a "track only car", but I will do roadracing & autoxing when I can. I would just like to know the different options available to me in order to make my decision, as best as I can, based on what I learn.

 

Blitz,
By adjusting the LOWER perch height, you are in essence lowering the body of the car by, in laymans terms, shortening the shock body. The main advantage here is the ability to set your height up without compromising travel. A nice advantage, but for a street/auto x setup, not really necessary. I hope I explained this well enough. It's hard to do just by typing. If not, call me and maybe I can explain better over the phone. I recommend the B2 for what you have described.

 

Thanks a lot guys. Yes it makes sence now, thank you. I understand now. (I wasnt able to call bcz I am still at work)


Is there such a thing as having a coilover setup with progressive springs? or is there no benefit in that?

 

If you want progressive, get an Eibach pro-kit or something. Personally, I don't want my springs trying to make up their mind what rate they'll be in the middle of a 80mph corner. Linear is much better for track/autox usage. Progressive is for the street.

Plus, I don't like the feel of progressive springs because they are tough to predict sometimes. And with progressive, you usually don't have a short enough spring to fit on a coilover body because of the way the coils are designed up top.

Oh, and if you don't like the springrates on the Zeals, they will accept any 7" spring with a 2.5" opening. Eibach makes some that will fit. I have the B6's and they are a nice coilover. The 10/6 kit isn't too bad for the street. Get a set of 8kg/mm springs for the front if you want a little softer ride.


[Modified by Todd00, 8:38 PM 9/21/2001]

 

Here are your Spring rates for the Zeal Lineup
Street / Race
B - F-10K R-6K / NA
B2 - F-10K R-6K / F-12K R-8K
Basic - F-10K R-6K / F-12K R-8K
B6 - F-10K R-6K / F-12K R-8K
S - F-10K R-6K / F-12K R-8K
Super
Function - NA / F-14K R-10K

These are the Standard ones Although others are available

 

Actually Mike, top of the line is the Function ZERO which you cannot buy, Zeal/Endless leases them to you

 

Yes I know

 

Zeal springs are made by swift so you can get any rate from 4kg to 32kg.
I love my 20kg/16kg S6 setup. The valving between B6 and S6 is also different. The S6 gets a more aggressive valving setup.

 

You are nuts Dee

 

Mike,

I just put in F.18k R.16k and it worked so much better then the original setup from ZEAL. Just note this.

 

thanks, for the info.
ok, so according to what you are saying, I can ord the B6 or B2 with a diffrent spring rate than Front 10-12 & Rear 6-8?
I am just concerned with the stiffness because the streets where I live are real bad, they really need to be repaired, but it seems to me like the Zeal suspensions are great & they seem attractive to me.

thanks again.