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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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Default Advice please: how in the heck do I mount this damn bucket seat??? (bling inside)

I tried to search, but couldn't find any definitive threads that show how a bucket seat is attached to rail/sliders.

I found this carbon-kevlar Recaro bucket (OEM seat for the Spirit R Type-A RX-7) @ a secondhand shop in Japan; with some logistical assistance from my friend Chris Giancaspro (DC5RK20A) in Okinawa, this seat is now sitting in my garage

After talking to On-Track Performance (Recaro dealer), I decided to order the Recaro/Wedge bottom mount slider/rail kit (as the OEM fitment in the RX-7 uses a bottom mount too). Upon receiving the kit, I cannot for the life of me figure out HOW this thing is supposed to attach to the seat...am I supposed to use some part off my stock seat? Quite embarassing, but I'm completely lost.

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Carbon-kevlar Recaro bucket seat:



I have emailed On-Track about this, but I was hoping that since a lot of you are using bucket seats maybe you could enlighten me...would I be better off going with something like the Mugen seat rail instead?

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Default Re: Advice please: how in the heck do I mount this damn bucket seat??? (kengs)

Most Recaro buckets mount on the side. That's why you can use Bride, Mugen rails and sliders for most of them. I have never seen one mount like that. Maybe the jdm recaro rail would work?

Actually looking at them closer, you are going to have to custom something if you want to use those existing holes.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Looks like you're going to have to custom fabricate something since it looks like a bottom mount seat.

Can't think of a better answer than that ... too busy drooling.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like you're going to have to custom fabricate something since it looks like a bottom mount seat.
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Oh I hope not...

BTW, here's a pic of the seat in the Spirit R Type-A:



I'm 6'1" (190lbs) and I fit very comfortably in this seat; weighs a tad over 12lbs if I remember correctly.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Advice please: how in the heck do I mount this damn bucket seat??? (kengs)

Try looking at using a Momo seat bracket for your car; afaik, they're made for bottom mount seats. I'm not sure if the dimensions or holes line up though.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hash Browns &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try looking at using a Momo seat bracket for your car; afaik, they're made for bottom mount seats. I'm not sure if the dimensions or holes line up though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But I thought Momo seats had the holes at the bottom of the seat parallel to each other. kengs' seat has the front holes after the curvature of the seat.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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It really wouldn't be that hard to make something to fit it. But I am positive those rails aren't going to work for you. Those are made for sidemount, correct?
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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Uh... in order for those to fit your going to have to do some work on the rear mounting points since it's AFTER the curve. I have never seen any seats for the Hondas that have that kind of mounting style. Everything is usually on the side OR on flat bottom surface. Good luck on this one JDM *****.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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Doh.

How about the Mugen rails? Would they fit?

<u>I don't mind drilling new holes</u>, but I don't want to waste any more money
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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wow.

Sure beats my recent JDM acquisition to shame...

Punk.
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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Those seats kick ***.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kengs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
<u>I don't mind drilling new holes</u>, but I don't want to waste any more money </TD></TR></TABLE>

You can save money by selling me the seats
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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Find a race prep/fab shop in the area - anyone who builds custom roll cages should be able to have something for you to mount to your stock rails/sliders for about 2 hrs in labor.
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Find a race prep/fab shop in the area - anyone who builds custom roll cages should be able to have something for you to mount to your stock rails/sliders for about 2 hrs in labor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. Nothing a welder can't take care of.
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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Default Re: Advice please: how in the heck do I mount this damn bucket seat??? (kengs)

Hey Old Man,

Those seats do not fit in Si's. I'll pick those up soon ok.

Thanks,

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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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Default Re: Advice please: how in the heck do I mount this damn bucket seat??? (kengs)

where you located ?

I could whip up something in a flash...
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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no one has mentioned JB WELD?

Nice seat BTW
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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JB Weld: Best Ghetto fab ever!

Shane dog, spend a lil money on stunna this holiday. I know you got the hookups!

Theres no way you cant just make new holes for the Recaro?
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Advice please: how in the heck do I mount this damn bucket seat??? (-BEN-)

whoa.... those seats are AMAZING.... can't wait to see some pics of them in the Arrrr
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Mugen are side mount.

The problem with the idea of drilling new holes, is that usually they are not just holes in the seat. There is actually a metal thread inside the hole so you can put a bolt in the side and thread it onto the seat. If you just drilled holes in the side, you would have to have a locking nut on the other side, which would be really uncomfortable to sit in.

I think it is a good idea to have a welder make something for you.
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Philly_NBP_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whoa.... those seats are AMAZING.... can't wait to see some pics of them in the Arrrr </TD></TR></TABLE>

What Arrrr?
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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Well, he can buy a tap-die set and tap the seat so there is thread to bolt the bolt in.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 01:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Philly_NBP_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whoa.... those seats are AMAZING.... can't wait to see some pics of them in the Arrrr </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, no Arrr for me...

And it is only one SEAT, not two

I'm leaning towards having a custom bracket made - but hopefully On-Track will be able to offer up some other solution. Thanks everyone for their feedback/suggestions

Here's what the seat looks like with the OEM Mazda rail/slider (not my pic):

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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 02:32 AM
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A tap and die won't work either, because there is supposed to be a metal thread inside the kevlar. It is made into the seat.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 02:46 AM
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I think you're missing a crossbar part. The base would be installed, then the sliders, and on top of that would be to bars that go across between the sliders that have numerous holes to allow for mounting of uncommon patterns. Don't know the recaro part #, but the sparco # is SM500. You would probably have to use a spacer ontop of that to reach up to the recessed areas in back. That would be the bolt in route. I would probably opt for a custom fabbed braket though because it will end up being lower. A good base to start off of where you could make everything bolt together would be the A-Sports rails, and instead of using their supplied side mounts, have a brakcet made to fit the bottom of the seat, and then bolt onto the rails where the sidemount brackets would mount.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A tap and die won't work either, because there is supposed to be a metal thread inside the kevlar. It is made into the seat. </TD></TR></TABLE>

theres actually a plate attached to the threaded sleeve , it has to be pretty strong.
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