also can anyone help me with a way to get rid of swirls and fade marks?

 

http://www.carcareonline.com

hth

 

Wash it very carefully. Use a good clean wash mitt, the thicker the better. Use two buckets, one to rinse the mitt in before you put it back in the soapy bucket. Don't put a lot of pressure on the mitt when you are washing the car. Be equally as careful when drying it. Use "real" cotton towels made in the USA. all this stuff will help minimize swirls. 3M swirl mark remover is the best stuff i have tried to get swirls out. i use it with a orbital buffer, dosen't do much by hand. From what i have heard zaino is the best stuff for black cars.

 

Not only that, but washing it regularly before dirt has a chance to build up or worse, eat into the paint. If your car gets wet due to rain or whatever while dirty wash it immediately noting all the details from the message above.

 

I dont mean to be a pain, but really...I cant believe that you are asking for advise on how to WASH your car. Really now....

 

Im asking how to treat and prevent swirls dick head!! I think thats an honest question isnt that what we are here for is to help eachother?

 

401, as many people have said b4,
if someone has nothing good, informative to say, then dont say anything at all
dont post flaming
later

 

Brent...way too touchy bud...sorry that you have to resort to a foul attitude. Buy a buffer, change your wax, and figure it out...

 

Where can you buy zaino?

 

I took care of the swirls/light scratches and generally abused paint on my 94 using meguiars. I first thouroughly washed it and then pulled it into the garage and taped up all the plastic and rubber near all painted surfaces. I then used meguiars deep clean and did this about three times. I then ran two coats of scratch-x and followed with three coats of their deep crystal system polish, finishing the job with a healthy coat of gold class paste wax. The results were spectacular, looks like a brand new paint job. Very deep and very glossy. I got everything from a local checker and it cost just over 30 bucks. I definitely recommend this.

 

thanks a lot for the help guys!!

 

Well said...Meguiars is the only stuff I use...

No swirls, scratches, etc...

 

What Jason said. And get him to do it, too! Here's what mine looked like. After driving 100 mi. back to RDU.







[edit] Grrr. [/edit]


[Modified by itr009, 12:52 PM 9/20/2001]

 

http://www.zainobros.com

this stuff is suppose to be amazing on dark colored cars

 

i dont know how to wash my car either..very useful info here..i just learned that dry dusters scratch your car.. my detailer toldme never to dry dust your car..always use water whenever possible..

 

Did you finally get a BP ITR? If so, congrats. Now on to your questions. I found the following steps to produce very deep shine.
1. Wash with mild soap
2. Use Zymol HD cleaner (non-abrasive) to get rid of old wax and water sports in the paint.
3. Use Scratch remover is need be. I use meguiar scratchX.
4. Buy quality wax. I use 1 Grand Blitze Wax. You can get it at http://www.carcareonline.com .

I don't trust chemical wax (i.e. Zaino) to do the job. I prefer natural wax. G'luck.

 

Does anyone know where can i find zaino's waxes, this stuff looks like an nice product. Do they have them at pep boys, or other big stores cuz ive never seen it their. Thanks

 

I completely agree here. Wax only. No fluropolymers (Zaino, Raceglaze, Finish First, etc...) FPs do give good results, but they do not give you a good, deep finish. Fluropolymers are NOT wax.

There is nothing you can do to prevent scratches. They will happen, the most you can do is minimize it by taking the right steps. Once you have scratches (swirls, spiderwebs), only mechanical polishing will remove, actually REDUCE, them. There is no short cut.

I use all McGuiar's Professional products: #00 car wash, clay bar, mild cut cleaner, fine cut cleaner, swirl remover, show car glaze and #26 Hi Tech Yellow liquid wax. I polish with a random orbital buffer, remove by hand. Apply the wax with the buffer and again remove by hand. CLEAN 100% terrycloth towels ONLY!


[Modified by FBP_1171, 1:25 PM 9/20/2001]

 

ok, so I see I have to spell it out for you guys:
http://www.carcareonline.com/howto_articles.html

 

I've used a large volume of products and have ALWAYS taken the exterior/interior condition of my cars VERY seriously. I recently tried Zaino and WILL NEVER use a "traditional" wax product again. The results are just too amazing. Take a look at this page to see what Zaino products did after one application (by me, in a couple of hours).
http://www.geocities.com/yell00itr/TL3

The difference was amazing and I didnt have to use an abrasive to get that finish (although it is inevitable). Another benefit of using a polymer product (aka synthetic "wax") is that it will outlast any organic wax on the market, with no tinting.

But, whatever. People will use whatever product they like.

To answer the original question, the best way to avoid swirls is to NEVER go to a machine wash, NEVER let anyone wash the car but you, and use only a chenile wash mitt (100%, no polyester) with as many strands as you can find. Always wash the car in the shade using a quality shampoo. The car's paint should NEVER be hot to the touch if you are washing it. Use a two bucket method..one with your soap, one with clean water. wring out your mit in the clean water before dunking it back in the soap. Finally, protect the finish with a layer of your favorite protectant...this way light swirls will likely end up in the product, not on your clearcoat.

Oh yeah, and be VERY careful when drying. Use a synthetic chamois (like an absorber, water bandit, p21 drying towel, etc), 100% cotton towels with LOTS of nap, or a high quality microfiber towel. Even better, use an electric leaf blower (200mph) and you will never have to risk touching your paint to dry it!

[Modified by Yell00ITR, 3:02 PM 9/20/2001]


[Modified by Yell00ITR, 3:05 PM 9/20/2001]

 

That's pretty much how I felt too (when I actually cared for the car! lol), but I ordered it and tried it. Very good results! I used to have a black car back then and it was really hell getting it to look perfect all the time. I used Meguires back then and it was the best, probably still one of the best now, but Zaino kept the car just as shinny or maybe even a bit more for longer periods. It didn't yellow either like some of the other fluoro type polishes...

 

Yeah, i don't understand why anyone would write off a synthetic product that more closely mimics clearcoat than a "natural" product, but to each their own.

Its funny, in the profession I work in, a lot of people insist on things because of the perception they are natural....for that alone

 

Probably for the same reason that 20 years ago, synthetic motor oils were laughed at. I like the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze for swirls. I have not tried Zainos, but have dealt with many customers (Porsche, BMW, etc.) that swear by it.

 

Here's my reasoning for using "natural" products... they are milder than any synthetic products. I know that sounds gay, but I don't like dealing with chemicals if I don't have to. (Let's just say that I had a REALLY bad experience w/ some abrasives... ) 1 grand blitze wax does a great job and I'm happy with it.

 

always wash, dry, and wax in straight lines. NEVER go in a circular motion!!!! this is my 2nd black car, and my first one's paint looked like ****. i now know what to do and not to do to black paint. once you find something that works stay with it.