I dont know which car to buy, a gsr or a 5th gen prelude. I know they are pretty neck in neck, and i like the looks of the prelude better, but a gsr is cheaper. aiite..now it's up to you guys to give me suggestions on what to do...no biased answers plzz..

 

what are you plans for the car??

drag, autox, road race etc..

 

should be pretty obvious what kind of answers you're going to get when asking in a prelude forum. test drive both and see what you like.

 

I'm a poor kid so i dont have money to boost or even hook up my car...so i want a fast stock car...for the price..is a gsr worth it...

 

depends what you're paying to ask if its worth it or not. both cars are pretty even stock for stock, both should be in the 15s depending on the driver.

 

if u want a fast stock car, then don't get a gsr or lude...get an american car maybe, or maybe a MR2 turbo, which is a bit faster stock for stock. But come on, ludes own gsr's, they look better, feel better, and are faster stock, and not everyone has one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by homesauce &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u want a fast stock car, then don't get a gsr or lude...get an american car maybe, or maybe a MR2 turbo, which is a bit faster stock for stock. But come on, ludes own gsr's, they look better, feel better, and are faster stock, and not everyone has one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so true.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by homesauce &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u want a fast stock car, then don't get a gsr or lude...get an american car maybe, or maybe a MR2 turbo, which is a bit faster stock for stock. But come on, ludes own gsr's, they look better, feel better, and are faster stock, and not everyone has one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he said no bias comments...

Either will be great. This is one of those times i would let price AND INSURANCE rates speak. I would like to have either, and i believe to the average modder that either will be a good car to get into.

 

agree 100% with that.


time for bed, night.

 

haha I made a topic about this a few months ago..

Anyways, I ended up buying a 99 prelude. Reasons being:
-I had owned a 97 prelude before
-The interior is MUCH nicer and roomier than an integras
-Preludes are so much rarer
-Preludes have heated seats/mirrors etc., much more luxury in a Prelude

The good thing about integras however is that there is a WIDE variety of aftermarket parts available for them. GSRs also have much more potential speedwise. If you ever wanted to go forced induction, a stock gsr block will handle more boost than an h22 block anyday.

 

non bias:

preludes faster in 1/4 stock.

gsr handles better, Much better.

preludes have a newer style of interior.

the hood of a 5th gen prelude weighs more than 75 pounds.

they both have pimp *** vtec that pulls like a mother ******

bias:

gsr has more potential (reduction: ps, ac, back seat ect ect. ~ 24-2500 lbs after a decent strip)

preludes are driven by ballas and old people: reduction on a prelude wont get you very far.

the only prelude i have ever been "excited" to see was the JUN JDM prelude w/ 270 ps.


if u want a better all around car, it depends what you want. the gsr is less than .3-.4 seconds slower than a 5th gen prelude, and it has better handling. its pretty much strait forward. gsr is much cheaper too!

 

you should look a clean 4th gen Vtec, 95-96, the 96 is odd2 but you can work around it, and the 4th gen Vtec is considerably faster than the 5th gen and the GSR, just my opinion

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha I made a topic about this a few months ago..

Anyways, I ended up buying a 99 prelude. Reasons being:
-I had owned a 97 prelude before
-The interior is MUCH nicer and roomier than an integras
-Preludes are so much rarer
-Preludes have heated seats/mirrors etc., much more luxury in a Prelude

The good thing about integras however is that there is a WIDE variety of aftermarket parts available for them. GSRs also have much more potential speedwise. If you ever wanted to go forced induction, a stock gsr block will handle more boost than an h22 block anyday.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They arent Rare ' er or More Rare, go to a honda lot and look at how many 5th gen ludes are just sitting around in the parking lot in pristine condition, i went to lynwood honda in western washington yesterday and there were 10 5th gen ludes. they arent Rare what so ever, check auto trader and any auto book.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">non bias:


gsr handles better, Much better.

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i wouldn't say a gs-r would handle MUCH better... i would say they are the same. they both pull almost the same slalom and lateral. it actually depends on what "magazine" you read. yea i know i'm magazine driving... also, i've driven both cars, (base not sh), i would say the gs-r may feel like it handles more b/c its like 500lb less then the prelude. but to me, the prelude feels more planted and safer.

prelude
-better brakes
-5 lugs
-as stated earlier, it is "rare" you dont' see that many around, hence honda's decision to discontinue.
-interior roomier/nicer/better amenities.
-stock stereo way better. honda acoustic feedback.
-coupe rather hb.
-quieter interior/cabin
-feels safer cause the "extra" weight
-either base of sh.. and they both have h22

down fall prelude
-premium gas
-insurance might be problem if you're young.
-bulky steering wheel.

gs-r
-massive aftermarket
-any kinda gas
-high as hell rev
-3rd GeAr VteC ! (i don't know what that means.. ahah i heard that gs-r's 3rd gear vtec pulls really hard)
-light weight makes car tossable
-interchangable parts with civics

down fall gs-r
-b-series is always getting robbed.
-loud interior/cabin noise
-fabric feels/looks cheap
-hb.
-engine bay gets pretty dirty. (it might be just me )
-you drive around and see all these integras, although might not be a gs-r.. it would bug the hell outta me seeing so many cars that look like mine. either rs, ls..

there was actually a joke about the integra. a type r owner rode in a friends 5th gen, while on the road, the 5th gen owner kept saying "oh look, there's your integra!" inferring, altho he has a type r, the body is essentially the same.

either way, if price is an issue. it really depends on what year you purchase. if you're talkiing about 99-00 ludes, they gonna run you 15-20g's. if you get like a 97-98... i've seen them as low as 8g's (having like 110k miles).. which is about the price range of gs-r's.

in all honesty... and this WILL sound BIAS. but the prelude is way more car. stock for stock. but when you mod, that's a different story. also, you'll want the tq from h22.

 

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They arent Rare ' er or More Rare, go to a honda lot and look at how many 5th gen ludes are just sitting around in the parking lot in pristine condition, i went to lynwood honda in western washington yesterday and there were 10 5th gen ludes. they arent Rare what so ever, check auto trader and any auto book.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'll agree to the 10 5th gen's probably being ss's. but anywhere around my way, you can't find a 5spd... hell ss ludes get sold in less then 2weeks. i actually went to a Burns Honda (marlton, nj) and asked if they'll be expecting a SH anytime soon, they laughed at me... cause they know its hard as hell to get one. they said they call me if they get one.. i'm still waiting.. since 5 months ago. And drive around ... count how many preludes you see in one day, and count how many gs-rs you see.

 

I guess I should add that I live up north of the border in Canada.. and I see one 5th gen to every 4-5 tegs rolling around.

 

u cant just use any gas in a gsr, u gotta run premium... Whoever says a prelude has more room than a gsr hasnt ridden in an integra b4...backseats are way more useable....

It all depends on how far u are willing to take modification of the car to... Are u someone that will go all out race later? Or do u just want a car that will see a few bolt ons and thats that?

A prelude is nice 'cos it is generally an all around well designed car... It comes with gobs of torque, handles decent and looks good... There isnt much aftermarket support for the h-series when compared to the b series so if u are looking past bolt ons... i'd say strike out the prelude from your list.... B series integras are a lot easier to work on...

A gsr is a nice car too, IMO it handles better than a prelude, its lighter and has lots of aftermarket support... Backseats are useable too...Definitely not as torquey as the preludes but the b series motor are a lot easier to work on..


Basically i am saying if u are going past bolt on's get the gsr, if u are only doing bolt ons get a prelude... U should look into a 4th gen h22 prelude...they are really nice too

 

I will quote either Car and Driver or Motor Trend, can't remember which; "The Prelude is the best Integra ever made."

 

If I can quote Corey.."Handling is about weight"

I love my Lude..but the DC is a better car IMO.

There is a reason everyone drives them.

Another thing I consider is the Lude will hold it's value better, but be more difficult to sell..IMO

 

If you're on a budget, Integras are a lot easier to find in junk yards so used parts are easier and cheaper to come by!

 

GSR's suck, Prelude's r00l.

Why do you care what we think anyway? No one is gonna swing from your sack on a stock car. Just go drive them both and buy which one you like.

 

well i don't want to jinx myself but in my life i have know of 6 integras that have been stolen all in a group of my friends, and (knock on wood ) none of the people i know with ludes have had them stolen.

i don;t know how crime is where you are, but there is alot of very desireable stuff off of a gsr that alot of other honda people can swap in. the prelude is sort or the rare badass bastard child of the performance cars honda made. i dunno don't listen to me its thirsty thursday, and i think ive had to much. besides your in the damn lude forum buy a lude!

 

to me an integra is just a fully loaded civic.
i liek them they aare nice anad fun. but a lude is classier, performs as well as or better in some cases as the gsr....and aftermarket parts for it are jsut as common as B series now (in general).

either car is a great car, i am biased towards the prelude cause i like the H series engine better (i own a 99 lude, 92 accord with h22a, 94 civic with h22a, 93 civic with b18c1), and because the prelude is a lot more car....we got the 99 lude for $10k, though it needed a little work, like new headlight lenses (they are very foggy/frosted inside), a new driver side mirror, new tires, new catalytic converter, and one wheel sensor for the abs. me and my gf love the car.

 

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nice collection

 

well i say gsr gets stolen more and ludes are harder......you see more gsr then vtec ludes.......so go with lude ......better in the long run